Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Janis Papanagnou Newsgroups: comp.unix.programmer,comp.lang.misc Subject: Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:55:14 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: <1gaPO.387679$WOde.118921@fx09.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:55:16 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="da0c5c405ecaf41e3216016f1ae74cd4"; logging-data="1339955"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+wZjbkx+sF6kBDhq0ZmnME" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:yGxDswWe/JAGUUNaa1ZmcXdfiyU= In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Bytes: 2663 [ X-post list reduced ] On 14.10.2024 17:27, David Brown wrote: > On 14/10/2024 16:53, Scott Lurndal wrote: >> Muttley@DastartdlyHQ.org writes: >>> >>> Really? So if its a language you'll be able to understand this then: >>> >>> 0011101011010101010001110101010010110110001110010100101001010100 >>> 0101001010010010100101010111001010100110100111010101010101010101 >>> 0001110100011101010001001010110011100010101001110010100101100010 >> >> I certainly understand this, even four decades later >> >> 94A605440C00010200010400000110 > > In my early days of assembly programming on my ZX Spectrum, I would > hand-assembly to machine code, and I knew at least a few of the codes by > heart. (01 is "ld bc, #xxxx", 18 is "jr", c9 is "ret", etc.) So while > I rarely wrote machine code directly, it is certainly still a > programming language - it's a language you can write programs in. Your post triggered some own memories... I have an old pocket calculator (Sharp PC-1401) programmable in BASIC. When I found out that it supports undocumented features to read machine code numbers from memory and write code numbers into memory (and call them as subprograms) I coded programs in decimal byte sequences. (A pain, for sure, but in earlier computer eras even a normal process.) Janis