Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: David Brown Newsgroups: comp.unix.shell,comp.unix.programmer,comp.lang.misc Subject: Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:27:18 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: <1gaPO.387679$WOde.118921@fx09.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:27:19 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a978988b7d5e4bb378c8cee584e37ec1"; logging-data="1329221"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX180LmAd+Wn0Xo6Vkh7CBz/vwCccoryIdBY=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.11.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:zblXc0eiLwuD9/sBEomxef2QLSI= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <1gaPO.387679$WOde.118921@fx09.iad> Bytes: 2781 On 14/10/2024 16:53, Scott Lurndal wrote: > Muttley@DastartdlyHQ.org writes: >> On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:38:04 -0000 (UTC) >> cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) boring babbled: >>> In article , wrote: >>>> On Sun, 13 Oct 2024 20:15:45 -0000 (UTC) >>>> cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) boring babbled: >>>>> Oh really? Is that why they call it "machine language"? It's >>>>> even in the dictionary with "machine code" as a synonymn: >>>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/machine%20language >>>> >>>> Its not a programming language. >>> >>> That's news to those people who have, and sometimes still do, >>> write programs in it. >> >> Really? So if its a language you'll be able to understand this then: >> >> 0011101011010101010001110101010010110110001110010100101001010100 >> 0101001010010010100101010111001010100110100111010101010101010101 >> 0001110100011101010001001010110011100010101001110010100101100010 > > I certainly understand this, even four decades later > > 94A605440C00010200010400000110 > In my early days of assembly programming on my ZX Spectrum, I would hand-assembly to machine code, and I knew at least a few of the codes by heart. (01 is "ld bc, #xxxx", 18 is "jr", c9 is "ret", etc.) So while I rarely wrote machine code directly, it is certainly still a programming language - it's a language you can write programs in.