Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: 2QdxY4RzWzUUiLuE@potatochowder.com Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: shutil.rmtree() fails when used in Fedora (rpm) "mock" environment Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2024 16:25:56 -0400 Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <4a13731716200669342338ae409e73ca@posteo.de> <0c080a7d-92de-4518-ac44-78d97fc9e3bb@mrabarnett.plus.com> <69934a74-6d04-40a0-a75f-b8024bd0af43@mrabarnett.plus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de bGFiZ3ZJT9CNxQTX1J4WQgtoTYF1Lx/KBEvXj3pLoCrQ== Cancel-Lock: sha1:MxiwolSR4Itfb6kr84377gwgR2Y= sha256:FAEfglqV10y5c8Q5eYBRNSm6uRqz8CTxF+WS67Br+rE= Return-Path: <2QdxY4RzWzUUiLuE@potatochowder.com> X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org Authentication-Results: mail.python.org; dkim=pass reason="2048-bit key; unprotected key" header.d=potatochowder.com header.i=@potatochowder.com header.b=PNka5MnT; dkim-adsp=pass; dkim-atps=neutral X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'thread': 0.05; 'cpu': 0.07; 'subject:when': 0.07; 'alternatives': 0.09; 'comparison': 0.09; 'fact,': 0.09; 'received:78': 0.09; 'reference:': 0.09; 'resolved': 0.09; '651': 0.16; '677': 0.16; '679': 0.16; '689': 0.16; '760': 0.16; 'appended': 0.16; 'assert': 0.16; 'comparison,': 0.16; 'designing,': 0.16; 'failed.': 0.16; 'from:addr:2qdxy4rzwzuuilue': 0.16; 'from:addr:potatochowder.com': 0.16; 'lambda': 0.16; 'odds': 0.16; 'received:136.243': 0.16; 'received:172.58': 0.16; 'received:www458.your-server.de': 0.16; 'received:your-server.de': 0.16; 'subject:() ': 0.16; 'subject:Fedora': 0.16; 'subject:fails': 0.16; 'subject:used': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; "can't": 0.17; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.20; 'skip:_ 10': 0.22; 'lines': 0.23; 'received:de': 0.23; 'anyone': 0.25; 'object': 0.26; 'else': 0.27; 'modify': 0.31; 'module': 0.31; "doesn't": 0.32; 'question': 0.32; 'end.': 0.32; 'maintaining': 0.32; 'modified': 0.32; 'python-list': 0.32; 'received:136': 0.32; 'but': 0.32; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.34; 'yes,': 0.35; 'following': 0.35; 'those': 0.36; 'put': 0.38; 'added': 0.39; 'something': 0.40; 'reference': 0.60; 'remember': 0.61; 'between': 0.63; 'less': 0.64; 'probability': 0.64; 'that,': 0.68; 'right': 0.68; 'matter': 0.68; 'living': 0.71; 'skip:* 10': 0.73; 'left': 0.83; 'beat': 0.84; 'replacing': 0.91; 'time?': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=potatochowder.com; s=default2305; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version: References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID; bh=7ga6UaFtPJAINz7qQiWOx7eAtsJpWzsXCozGGoeAadM=; b=PNka5MnTjteMFI2vaEdslbFwga sZbvLblhod6jYsMVqj0g+jiKmvLV1wVIZKOdy1yjzcwlVcZjLwcwmoeiguroqpLG/n6fwdsVyB2WD zw5+fwPMTCiRNv0dPDvg+gmHeEqH1ahgy60yWQC8WQy5ngOGrFXhx+ZTO2kNuMT0a4NSrOeQr5kZR 4WDFL2WGOqF3gw7gsHWoui1RKYah70eFKbblvoBvsDA4AFVXf3Rsx6KJ+ojEMzj3otPcqgpNAEPmb 6+hRsZlBO/Gx6u/LOgo0CWdr64WVd6qLILwNC9pcncTtOE5LCKNN6iS2emVyk4BoJh2g6zWLMgVbl o4OJdZoQ==; Mail-Followup-To: python-list@python.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Authenticated-Sender: 2QdxY4RzWzUUiLuE@potatochowder.com X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.103.10/27437/Thu Oct 24 10:33:37 2024) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: X-Mailman-Original-References: <4a13731716200669342338ae409e73ca@posteo.de> <0c080a7d-92de-4518-ac44-78d97fc9e3bb@mrabarnett.plus.com> <69934a74-6d04-40a0-a75f-b8024bd0af43@mrabarnett.plus.com> Bytes: 6898 On 2024-10-24 at 20:54:53 +0100, MRAB via Python-list wrote: > On 2024-10-24 20:21, Left Right wrote: > > > > > The stack is created on line 760 with os.lstat and entries are appended > > > > > on lines 677 (os.rmdir), 679 (os.close) and 689 (os.lstat). > > > > > > > > > > 'func' is popped off the stack on line 651 and check in the following lines. > > > > > > > > > > I can't see anywhere else where something else is put onto the stack or > > > > > an entry is replaced. > > > > But the _rmtree_safe_fd() compares func to a *dynamically* resolved > > reference: os.lstat. If the reference to os changed (or os object was > > modified to have new reference at lstat) between the time os.lstat was > > added to the stack and the time of comparison, then comparison > > would've failed. To illustrate my idea: > > > > os.lstat = lambda x: x # thread 1 > > stack.append((os.lstat, ...)) # thread 1 > > os.lstat = lambda x: x # thread 2 > > func, *_ = stack.pop() # thread 1 > > assert func is os.lstat # thread 1 (failure!) > > > > The only question is: is it possible to modify os.lstat like that, and > > if so, how? > > > > Other alternatives include a malfunctioning "is" operator, > > malfunctioning module cache... all those are a lot less likely. > What is the probability of replacing os.lstat, os.close or os.rmdir from > another thread at just the right time? That is never the right question in a multi-threaded system. The answer is always that is doesn't matter, the odds will beat you in the end. Or sometimes right in the middle of a CPU instruction; does anyone remember the MC680XX series? Yes, as a matter of fact, I did used to make my living designing, building, delivering, and maintaining such systems.