Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: ChatGPT refutes the key rebuttal of my work Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2024 14:49:39 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2024 18:49:39 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1890097"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2686 Lines: 53 On 10/13/24 9:28 AM, olcott wrote: > On 10/13/2024 8:19 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 10/13/24 8:53 AM, olcott wrote: >>> Although it is possible for LLM systems to lie: >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucination_(artificial_intelligence) >>> >>> ChatGPT does correctly apply truth preserving operations to >>> the premises that it was provided regarding the behavior of >>> DDD and HHH. *Try to find a mistake in its reasoning* >>> >>> *The key premises are simply* >>> (a) the source code for DDD >> >> WHich isn't the source code for the PROGRAM DDD >> >> Try to run that program just by itself. >> >> It won't work, you need to include HHH (and everything it calls) so >> that the "source code" for DDD needs to include the definition of all >> of that. >> >> Sorry, you are just proving you don't understand what you are talking >> about. >> >>> >>> void DDD() >>> { >>>    HHH(DDD); >>>    return; >>> } >>> >>> (b) The design of HHH as a simulating termination analyzer. >> >> Which gets the wrong answer. >> >>> >>> https://chatgpt.com/share/6709e046-4794-8011-98b7-27066fb49f3e >>> Click on the above link to directly talk to ChatGPT about HHH >>> and DDD without logging in. >>> >>> When you click on the link and try to explain how HHH must >>> be wrong when it reports that DDD does not terminate because >>> DDD does terminate it will explain your mistake to you. >>> >> >> You have taught Chat GPT this error as shown in this statement: >> > > I have only provided the source-code for DDD and the design of HHH. > You have not shown how any details of exactly what I told ChatGPT > are incorrect. > >