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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a
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On 10/28/2024 9:56 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 10/28/24 9:09 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 10/28/2024 6:56 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>
>>> It is IMPOSSIBLE to emulate DDD per the x86 semantics without the 
>>> code for HHH, so it needs to be part of the input.
>>>
>>
>> *You seemed to be a totally Jackass here*
>> You are not that stupid
>> You are not that ignorant
>> and this is not your ADD
>>
>> _DDD()
>> [00002172] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
>> [00002173] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD
>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
>> [0000217f] 83c404     add esp,+04
>> [00002182] 5d         pop ebp
>> [00002183] c3         ret
>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>>
>> At machine address 0000217a HHH emulates itself emulating
>> DDD without knowing that it is emulating itself.
>>
> 
> Then how did it convert the call HHH into an emulation of DDD again?
> 

When HHH (unknowingly) emulates itself emulating DDD this
emulated HHH is going to freaking emulate DDD.

Did you think it was going to play poker?

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