Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Physfitfreak Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: The Joy Of Democracy Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2024 20:25:08 -0500 Organization: Modern Human Message-ID: References: <1S9SO.56086$TpU4.14636@fx41.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 01:25:08 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="1583553"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:vJT+LBDAin9vQKHRFqBc27Hk4M0= X-User-ID: eJwFwYERADAEBLCVOB4dR+nvP0ITWGhMeiAcBIXTds9Co+tkchfxpMtfuItkre47njW4tCJl2uOyO5FqH1+rFdQ= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4473 Lines: 52 On 10/25/24 15:43, rbowman wrote: > On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 10:50:25 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote: > >> On 2024-10-24, rbowman wrote: >>> On Thu, 24 Oct 2024 05:35:00 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 12:53:13 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2024-10-23 2:56 a.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> If you mean “large cities”, those are in fact the backbone of your >>>>>> economy. The US isn’t an agrarian society any more. >>>>>> >>>>>> Why should the value of someone’s vote depend on where they live? >>>>> >>>>> If the people in those "large cities" do not receive food, what will >>>>> happen to them? >>>> >>>> They won’t be able to make the machines that the farmers use to farm >>>> their crops. There would be no electricity generation or fuel supply, >>>> no manufacturing of farmhouses, no laying of roads for the trucks to >>>> supply feed and fertilizer and seed and take away produce. Nobody to >>>> pay the farmers. Nobody to educate them on how to grow their crops. >>>> >>>> The whole system collapses. >>> >>> You are so fucking ignorant it's pathetic. Do you really think they >>> manufacture tractors in New York City, Baltimore, or LA? Harvest the >>> lumber needed to build houses? Drill wells for oil and gas? Mine coal? >> >> I don't think he's ever done any real work in his whole life. > > As usual he is talking out of his ass. When I took a break from > programming in the '90s I drove OTR and went to all of the lower 48 except > Vermont and Maine, as well as western Canada. I know where I picked up > manufactured goods or agricultural products and where I took them. > > Trucking is sort of like a chess game. When you get a good paying load > going from Point A to Point B you're also looking ahead to how you're > going the get a load from Point B. Shippers aren't stupid and realize if > the loads going out are scarce they can pay less than the actual cost if > the trucking company wants to get the truck moving. For example I've > brought a lot of carpet to Denver, either from the mills in GA or imports > from the LA ports. About the only thing leaving Denver is dog food from > the Ralston Purina plant. (or people food. It sort of worried me that the > forklifts came from the same direction). > > Particularly in the big eastern cities you'd bounce (run empty) several > hundred miles to get a load. Take carpet to Brooklyn and you find there is > absolutely nothing shipped out of Brooklyn. You need to get to rural PA.] I thought Purina was made in Switzerland.