Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: RonB Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: The Joy Of Democracy Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2024 07:33:18 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 57 Message-ID: References: <1S9SO.56086$TpU4.14636@fx41.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2024 09:33:19 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ae4bc4619bae65ec558c8849bebcddd3"; logging-data="3823010"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+gMvzT/3Z6sjWHzLko+zVq" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:wSx1oPJq5PYOImohsHTBwAXhP2o= Bytes: 4673 On 2024-10-25, rbowman wrote: > On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 10:50:25 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote: > >> On 2024-10-24, rbowman wrote: >>> On Thu, 24 Oct 2024 05:35:00 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 12:53:13 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2024-10-23 2:56 a.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> If you mean “large cities”, those are in fact the backbone of your >>>>>> economy. The US isn’t an agrarian society any more. >>>>>> >>>>>> Why should the value of someone’s vote depend on where they live? >>>>> >>>>> If the people in those "large cities" do not receive food, what will >>>>> happen to them? >>>> >>>> They won’t be able to make the machines that the farmers use to farm >>>> their crops. There would be no electricity generation or fuel supply, >>>> no manufacturing of farmhouses, no laying of roads for the trucks to >>>> supply feed and fertilizer and seed and take away produce. Nobody to >>>> pay the farmers. Nobody to educate them on how to grow their crops. >>>> >>>> The whole system collapses. >>> >>> You are so fucking ignorant it's pathetic. Do you really think they >>> manufacture tractors in New York City, Baltimore, or LA? Harvest the >>> lumber needed to build houses? Drill wells for oil and gas? Mine coal? >> >> I don't think he's ever done any real work in his whole life. > > As usual he is talking out of his ass. When I took a break from > programming in the '90s I drove OTR and went to all of the lower 48 except > Vermont and Maine, as well as western Canada. I know where I picked up > manufactured goods or agricultural products and where I took them. > > Trucking is sort of like a chess game. When you get a good paying load > going from Point A to Point B you're also looking ahead to how you're > going the get a load from Point B. Shippers aren't stupid and realize if > the loads going out are scarce they can pay less than the actual cost if > the trucking company wants to get the truck moving. For example I've > brought a lot of carpet to Denver, either from the mills in GA or imports > from the LA ports. About the only thing leaving Denver is dog food from > the Ralston Purina plant. (or people food. It sort of worried me that the > forklifts came from the same direction). > > Particularly in the big eastern cities you'd bounce (run empty) several > hundred miles to get a load. Take carpet to Brooklyn and you find there is > absolutely nothing shipped out of Brooklyn. You need to get to rural PA.] I haven't traveled as much as you, but I've seen a lot of our country, and I know that Lawrence is absolutely clueless on this subject. -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien