Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Joel Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Report: Arm cancelling contract with Qualcomm Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2024 19:53:47 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 63 Message-ID: References: <4icSO.729346$_o_3.339223@fx17.iad> <4m7ohjpilajoom4si92a2omjlhcvsr5mbk@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2024 01:53:48 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="75c20f2faa4984c86e0cefb85857e609"; logging-data="4132386"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19ltlRWkzajTBqMji5p/DotyaPXHB0P3pQ=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:eNqDlwb+cW5XtLGE+sS3HmtqCbE= OS: Debian 12, with Wine 9.0 for WinAPI Bytes: 3734 Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>>>> Nothing in the document you linked to says it can't run on Apple >>>>>> metal, just implying that it isn't supported by M$. >>>>> >>>>> I assume Microsoft “supports” those techniques because they are the >>>>> only ones that offer anything approaching a quality user experience. >>>>> >>>>> Obviously trying to run Windows-on-ARM on bare Apple metal does not. >>>> >>>> It's not obvious. >>> >>>You think Microsoft would forego an opportunity to tout the richness of >>>its Windows user experience? >> >> They haven't done testing of Win11 on the new Macs, that doesn't mean it >> wouldn't work. > >This is Microsoft. There is stuff they *did* test that doesn’t work. Here's a clue, for you. In 2010, I purchased a MacBook, with a two- core CPU, 2 GB RAM, and the novelty of OS X AKA macOS wore off before long, and I tried using Boot Camp, which sucked because to switch between them required fully shutting down one, to boot the other, so I put Win7 on it alone. I then ended up wanting it out of my house, and gave it to a friend who favored laptops. She loved it. But a few months later, it croaked, less than a year old. Windows was a beast for that Apple hardware, even though it was entirely compatible as far as using it. It's not about whether it'd boot and operate, it's about the long-term stability of the *hardware*. That's why M$ is implying that you're on your own, if you put Win11 ARM on a newer Mac. >>>> The only obvious thing is that they don't want to tell you it's OK, >>>> to do it. >>> >>> Because they know that only disappointment lies in that direction. >> >> How do you know? > >Because Windows is a complex piece of software. And Microsoft is a profit- >driven company. It's not anything about that, they just don't wanna be responsible when you fry your computer, with their bloated crapware. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.