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From: Muttley@dastardlyhq.com
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Subject: Re: Python (was Re: I did not inhale)
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2024 17:59:25 -0000 (UTC)
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On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 08:33:30 -0700
John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 08:21:29 -0000 (UTC)
>Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>> Yes, this is a royal PITA. I use tabs as in vim I can instantly
>> change the indentation using "set ts=". With spaces its fixed short
>> of dicking about with macros.
>
>All of this. Are there some safeguards in place for the most egregious
>cases? Yes - but literal whitespace is still a horrendous misfeature,
>something the world at large has known for so long that it was already
>an established joke by the time Ed Post was cracking wise about JCL in
>freakin' _Datamation._
>
>Python is far from the worst language out there - in fact, it's quite
>usable for a wide variety of applications, in spite of that - but the
>simple fact that Guido & co. made a boneheaded choice like that is the
>reason I'll never be able to *respect* it, even when I do find myself
>using it. There should - plain and simple - *never* be a time where you
>can end up with unexpected semantic behavior because of settings in
>your editor-of-choice.

Literal whitespace also has a knock on effect that I'm guessing Guido didn't
consider. It prevents python being used in command line shell pipes for
anything useful unlike perl and awk.