Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Catrike Ryder Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Facebook Account Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2024 12:49:45 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 67 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2024 18:49:55 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="065c50fc3c4a5f7e235d1f9a6239bcdc"; logging-data="1727867"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/z9a+vM60tRqpm+kBoQ4ayXzrbo8XUpDk=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:h2yw7ZQfsu7Ll3/0/7AIQtpdSRI= Bytes: 3636 On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 11:18:14 -0600, AMuzi wrote: >On 11/5/2024 10:53 AM, Zen Cycle wrote: >> On 11/5/2024 10:25 AM, AMuzi wrote: >>> On 11/5/2024 8:47 AM, Zen Cycle wrote: >>>> On 11/5/2024 9:32 AM, AMuzi wrote: >>>>> On 11/4/2024 9:05 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>>>> On 11/4/2024 7:07 PM, Shadow wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>     "But it's in the Constitution" - just saying that >>>>>>> lowers the >>>>>>> score. The World has changed a LOT in over 100 years, >>>>>>> and laws need to >>>>>>> change to accompany that. >>>>>> >>>>>> I occasionally encounter people who treat the U.S. >>>>>> Constitution as perfection itself, and as a holy >>>>>> document That Must Never Be Criticized. >>>>>> >>>>>> But despite its revisions (AKA amendments) I think it's >>>>>> got serious flaws. As evidence, there are now hundreds >>>>>> of nations with constitutions. Not one has duplicated >>>>>> the U.S. Constitution. All have at least attempted to >>>>>> improve on it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> With mixed success. I give you the overwhelmingly >>>>> adopted 18th Amendment, the only one more destructive >>>>> than the 17th. >>>>> >>>>> Change for its own sake is not always positive. >>>>> >>>> >>>> An amendment defining the structure of the senate is the >>>> 2nd most destructive? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> It removed the State legislatures from the process. That's >>> a big change, as reflected by candidates' positions and >>> campaign strategies and of course who is elected. >> >> Wait, so you're saying the state legislatures should have >> the exclusive authority to appoint senators, regardless of >> the will of the people? >> >> I'm having difficulty seeing how the people electing >> senators is "destructive". >> > >For the same reason that pattern and practice of elections >is the sole plenary duty of the legislature, not referenda, >not by one official elected or appointed. > >The Framers preferred a deliberative process for many >decisions (by no means all) and we differ, as much now as >then, about where those lines should be drawn. Diminished state sovereignty, which increased the federal government’s powers. -- C'est bon Soloman