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Failed to connect to MySQL: (1203) User howardkn already has more than 'max_user_connections' active connectionsPath: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dhu on Gate Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.politics,alt.archeology Subject: Re: The Still-Persistent Myth of the World Flood Followup-To: alt.politics Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2024 11:54:16 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 69 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2024 12:54:16 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9a84740846fa52f26b1da340810aaa1d"; logging-data="639308"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18+MQ8T4TSZW0+jMRfKAG3QcOt1Pabp42A=" User-Agent: Pan/0.153 (Mariupol; c5405f5) Cancel-Lock: sha1:iMlKDWNccOkjAp040bzu/lreezM= Bytes: 3668 On Sun, 3 Nov 2024 16:08:03 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: > On 11/3/24 8:05 AM, vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote: >> The timing is off by orders of magnitude, but it did happen when the Atlantic >> opened up and the Alps-Apallachians folded upwards. > > Ummmmm ... were barely any mammals back then. They > looked like shrews. > > The Appalachians formed because the spread of the > Atlantic put pressure there. The Alps formed (and > are still forming) because the African plate is > pushing up and under Europe. Someday, no more Med. Most people don't get "deep time". > > >> Is it possible some >> pre-human people actually had a memory of this they passed down orally? > > PRE-human ? You're talking just the past maybe 3 million > years there. That's barely a blink in geo time. The oldest remembrances we have are from the beginning of the "stone-age": that Jawbone of an Ass we used to genocide the Hyenas of Africa (and conquer Jericho ;) is at least 3 million YA. > > As said, there no doubt WERE huge floods as the ice-age > quickly ended. Early civs, and story trees, already > existed. The floods weren't all at the same time and > certainly did NOT cover the world. However the whole > of the, say, Tigris/Euphrates flood plain MAY have > turned into a big lake for awhile. That would have > SEEMED to be a 'world flood' to anyone there. It'd > be a compelling story, likely to stick. > > Genetic archeology however does NOT show any especially > large human DNA bottleneck from that time. MOST people > did NOT get flooded away. However seacoast settlements > had to be abandoned, moved much further inland, as the > overall sea level rose. LOTS of archeology to be had, > under 300' of ocean. > >> And >> the Caucasian peoples did originate in the Cavcas Mts where Mt Ararat does >> have what seems as Noah's Ark. Iranian and Armenian are the proto Cavcasian, >> aka IndoEuropean, languages. > > Well, 'caucasians' and friends are hardly the whole > of Humanity. > > However Caucs and Semites DID write down the old > stories eventually - the ones we find in various > religious texts from in and around the Levant and > Mesopotamia. Adding a 'religion' angle made the > stories all the more 'sticky'. About right. Dhu -- Je suis Canadien. Ce n'est pas Francais ou Anglais. C'est une esp`ece de sauvage: ne obliviscaris, vix ea nostra voco;-) Duncan Patton a Campbell