Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 18:42:45 +0000 Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers Newsgroups: sci.math References: <094dadad718eaa3827ad225d54aaa45b880dd821@i2pn2.org> <3399a95e386bc5864f1cfcfc9f91f48366e0fed2@i2pn2.org> <0d551828411c0588000796fa107a16b1e23a866c@i2pn2.org> <74bdc0f14fd0f2c6bfd9ac511a37f66b41948ac4@i2pn2.org> From: Ross Finlayson Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 10:42:48 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: Lines: 20 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-UCXhtsLI3D6h7jE9AGjelfBSBNPGt8Jr/URW6xvp2tY4LpJLwa4jwqCkwDsheuaBxQ4YzvzAzDgAGSo!kiGhiOeF+YagpJQ+9Um2Lmk239FMWV8k84lNm/zx+/IB81nIH342WfBYnJNNjwv320ZjzeoQgtn8!FA== X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 2984 On 11/22/2024 07:11 AM, joes wrote: > Am Fri, 22 Nov 2024 15:51:11 +0100 schrieb WM: >> On 22.11.2024 13:32, joes wrote: >> > Am Fri, 22 Nov 2024 13:00:52 +0100 schrieb WM: >> >> >>>>>>>> The number of ℕ \ {1} is 1 less than ℕ. >> >>>>>>> And what, pray tell, is Aleph_0 - 1 ? >> >>>>>> It is "infinitely many" like Aleph_0. >> >>> Thanks for agreeing with |N| = |N\{0}|. >> >> Of course. ℵo means nothing but infinitely many. >> > Good. Then we can consider those sets to have the same number. >> That is the big mistake. It makes you think that the sets of naturals >> and of prime numbers could cover each other. > As it should. You can give each prime an index. > The other way though, in Hilbert's 'Otel there's necessarily bumping each one down each time any is moved.