Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: 2N=E Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2024 17:43:12 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <84c1bb5d-67db-4d21-918a-f86cd1f815c5@att.net> <282974aaed1fcb8eae0c5d69ffb6ba39a1909b64@i2pn2.org> <55737882c19ea6d576a04e71473a1cd87a15bb7b@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2024 17:43:11 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7a5c3d5bd5beaedc8f6221c54ec21ecb"; logging-data="1700126"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX193qwe5Rv19qB1g9S3WpGi9siQ8YVa7npI=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:dYEqRksk60OFl0Npc2nh+lwDjXI= In-Reply-To: <55737882c19ea6d576a04e71473a1cd87a15bb7b@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3114 On 05.11.2024 04:08, Richard Damon wrote: > On 11/4/24 12:24 PM, WM wrote: >> On 04.11.2024 13:26, Richard Damon wrote: >> >>> Yes, we know if you will double them again, as we started with the >>> assumption that we double ALL the number, and any even number will be >>> reached from doubling the number that is one half of it and will be >>> doubled again. >> >> Please mark the sentence which you suspect to be wrong: >> >> - All natural numbers exist. >> - The even numbers have only half of the substance(*) of the integers. > > Not a valid statement, as half of infinity is still infinity. Substance means number obtained from limit: 1/2, 1/2, 1/2, ... --> 1/2. > >> - Multiplication of all elements of a set does not change the substance. >> >> (*) For every interval (0, 2n] the number E of even natnumbers is half >> of the number N of natnumbers: E/N = 1/2. For (0, oo] we obtain the >> limit of the sequence 1/2, 1/2, 1/2, ... which is 1/2. This is the >> ratio of the substances or, as Cantor called it, the reality. > > In other words, your logic can only deal with finite subsets of the > infinite set It deals with limits. Regards, WM