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From: WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de>
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Subject: Re: 2N=E
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2024 20:24:08 +0200
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On 22.10.2024 19:24, Jim Burns wrote:
> On 10/22/2024 10:11 AM, WM wrote:

>>> The numbers ARE fixed,
>>> there are just inf. many of them.
>>
>> All of them are multiplied by 2.
>>
>>> The larger numbers have already all been "created".
>>
>> Not before multiplying them.
> 
> "Creation" of these numbers
> is confusingly imagined to be
> creation of these numbers.

These numbers did not belong to the set when it was multiplied.
> 
> These numbers are described by axioms.

By axiom also all numbers of the set are present and available to be 
multiplied.
> 
> Claims (axioms) are made which are true of
> each of these numbers,

which can be multiplied.

> No number starts or stops
> being described by those axioms.

The set is complete when its numbers are multiplied.

> In that sense,
> no number starts or stops
> existing.
> No number enters or exits
> the domain of discourse those axioms describe.

All numbers which are described are in the set when being multiplied.
> 
> In this discussion,
> the numbers being.described.by.those.axioms
> == the numbers existing
> include, for each such number, double that number.

Of course. But all these are multiplied.
> 
> The numbers and their doubles
> always were/will.be being.described.by.those.axioms
> always were/will.be existing.

They are existing when multiplied.
> 
> We cannot perform supertasks like
> counting infinitely.many.

But we can use all existing numbers, for instance for mappings.

Regards, WM