Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: 2N=E Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 06:46:26 -0500 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: References: <84c1bb5d-67db-4d21-918a-f86cd1f815c5@att.net> <282974aaed1fcb8eae0c5d69ffb6ba39a1909b64@i2pn2.org> <55737882c19ea6d576a04e71473a1cd87a15bb7b@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 11:46:26 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1204518"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3360 Lines: 43 On 11/5/24 11:43 AM, WM wrote: > On 05.11.2024 04:08, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 11/4/24 12:24 PM, WM wrote: >>> On 04.11.2024 13:26, Richard Damon wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, we know if you will double them again, as we started with the >>>> assumption that we double ALL the number, and any even number will >>>> be reached from doubling the number that is one half of it and will >>>> be doubled again. >>> >>> Please mark the sentence which you suspect to be wrong: >>> >>> - All natural numbers exist. >>> - The even numbers have only half of the substance(*) of the integers. >> >> Not a valid statement, as half of infinity is still infinity. > > Substance means number obtained from limit: 1/2, 1/2, 1/2, ... --> 1/2. So, all you are doing is proving that half of infinity is still infinity, and not less than itself. Finite logic just breaks in the infinite realm. >> >>> - Multiplication of all elements of a set does not change the substance. >>> >>> (*) For every interval (0, 2n] the number E of even natnumbers is >>> half of the number N of natnumbers: E/N = 1/2. For (0, oo] we obtain >>> the limit of the sequence 1/2, 1/2, 1/2, ... which is 1/2. This is >>> the ratio of the substances or, as Cantor called it, the reality. >> >> In other words, your logic can only deal with finite subsets of the >> infinite set > > It deals with limits. > But wrongly. Remember, but that same logic, there is not smallest unit fraction. > Regards, WM