Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: How many different unit fractions are lessorequal than all unit fractions? (infinitary) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 20:52:22 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <08a00c75-bf8d-4f9c-816a-83b8517ca04e@att.net> <062a0fa5-9a15-4649-8095-22c877af5ebf@att.net> <276fc9df-619b-4a10-b414-a04a74aa7378@att.net> <88e6a631-417a-4dd0-9443-a57116dcbd28@att.net> <7a1e34df-ffee-4d30-ae8c-2af5bcb1d932@att.net> <6a90a2e2-a4fa-4a8d-83e9-2e451fa8dd51@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 20:52:22 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="028c8f7ef7e0642f2efab9c9f9b9b737"; logging-data="1201549"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18MOD0jm+CYHlN26dfJlp5F/NVA20NO5Hc=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:C/P8P9xBhexh+uMyEUW3orWvRjA= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3180 On 28.10.2024 12:21, Richard Damon wrote: > On 10/28/24 6:36 AM, WM wrote: >> NUF increases by 1 or more, but more would violate mathematics. > > No, NUF(x) jumps from 0 to Aleph_0 in the domain of finite numbers, > because there is no finite x where it has the value of 0. It has the value 0 for all x =< 0. And it cannot jump by more than 1 at any point. > > It is just a "undefined" function. No, but the first steps happen at undefinable x. > >> >>>>> Hint: For each and every x e IR, x <= 0: NUF(x) = 0 >>>>> and for each and every x e IR, x > 0: NUF(x) = aleph_0. >>>> >>>> That is blatantly wrong because it would require that ℵo unit >>>> fractions exist between 0 and each and every x > 0, i.e., the open >>>> interval (0, 1]. >> >>> Right, like is what happens. >>> >>> It may seem strange to a person stuck in finite logic, but is true >>> when you understand how infinity works. >> >> This infinity between 0 and (0, 1] is not what I can accept. > > Note, it isn't an "infinity between" it is that the "bottom" of (0, 1] > doesn't exist as a definable point. That is true. The bottom is dark. Regards, WM