Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: How many different unit fractions are lessorequal than all unit fractions? (infinitary) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 20:18:11 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <2c61f74970428fa08694d6aa2f9828ea3629fd36@i2pn2.org> References: <4bc3b086-247a-4547-89cc-1d47f502659d@tha.de> <09d9f0df-b1bb-42a7-af9b-890bfbcfc581@att.net> <3f63bc22-83b2-4d56-9837-849551170c77@att.net> <50ac7044-f8c1-47d9-947f-9fa6044e1848@tha.de> <68b8be64-7fe8-47e7-a991-7adf14713af5@att.net> <53460f91-4542-4a92-bc4b-833c2ad61e52@att.net> <001ce71635edd59bb004413b2f16e8c5b95549be@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2024 00:18:11 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2365041"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3414 Lines: 40 On 10/16/24 1:53 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > On 10/16/2024 4:54 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 10/16/24 4:27 AM, WM wrote: >>> On 15.10.2024 02:00, Jim Burns wrote: >>> >>>> So, what is that perfectly reasonable explanation? >>> >>> There is a general rule not open to further discussion: >>> When doubling natural numbers we obtain natural numbers which have >>> not been doubled. >>> In potential infinity we obtain more even natural numbers than have >>> been doubled. >>> In actual infinity we double ℕ and obtain neither ℕ or a subset of ℕ. >>> >>> Regards, WM >> >> But that isn't actually a general rule, so you are just admitting that >> you aren't talking about the same Natural Numbers that everyone else >> is talking about, but some bastadization that is just fininte. >> >> NO natural number when doubled results in a value that wasn't a >> natural number all the time. > > Humm. Don't tell me WM thinks that 2 is not a natural because 1*2=2 He seems to think there exists Natural Numbers, in the Actually Infinite set where they are exist for all time and never change, that when double get you to a number that wasn't in that set. But since the result IS a Natural Numbers, it must have been, or is "actual infinity" didn't actually contain *ALL* the Natural Numbers. > > ;^D > > >> >> Your problem is that your "Acutal Infinity" isn't actually Infinity, >> and like isn't actually "actually". >