Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.xs3.de!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: RonO Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Pigs infected with H5N1 in Oregon Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2024 14:26:14 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 21 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: Reply-To: rokimoto557@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="94229"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:XGMkNk9lOCRed96+HoUu9g5Gkmk= Return-Path: X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 034C9229782; Thu, 31 Oct 2024 15:26:24 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CDE07229765 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2024 15:26:21 -0400 (EDT) id 7CEAF61116; Thu, 31 Oct 2024 19:26:20 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay.zaccari.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4AD705FD1F for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2024 19:26:20 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 mod-relay.zaccari.net 4AD705FD1F (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB6CF5F70C for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2024 19:26:17 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/EB6CF5F70C; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com id 805EDDC01A9; Thu, 31 Oct 2024 20:26:17 +0100 (CET) X-Injection-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2024 20:26:17 +0100 (CET) Content-Language: en-US X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1/LbpHU3qqWYiSB/X4TlMzjrhpQQRbEKb8= FREEMAIL_FORGED_REPLYTO,FREEMAIL_REPLYTO_END_DIGIT, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED, USER_IN_WELCOMELIST,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 3592 https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/usda-announces-first-h5n1-avian-flu-detection-us-pigs One of the last things that they want to happen with the dairy virus is for it to get into the pig population because of the possibility of recombining with swine flu. It happened in Oregon, and they are still in denial that they have infected dairies in the state. Milk products were not tested by the FDA that were produced in Oregon, but in other states when poultry flocks go down there are infected dairies in the area infecting those poultry flocks. They are trying to blame migrating birds, but those birds are going south not back up into the northern states. The USDA has already sequenced the swine isolates, but they did not release the sequence information, just claimed that the two mutations that they have been looking for were not in the virus sequenced. The problem is that those two mutations have already occurred in the virus that normally circulates among pigs. You do not need the two mutations if you can pick them up by coinfection. Ron Okimoto