Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.hasname.com!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: R Kym Horsell Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,talk.politics.guns Subject: Re: The climate crisis grows exponentially. Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2024 16:46:09 -0000 (UTC) Organization: kymhorsell.com Sender: R Kym Horsell Message-ID: References: <8ONOO.473316$f3ea.182409@fx09.ams4> <%%1QO.3362042$EVn.772513@fx04.ams4> Reply-To: kymhorsell@gmail.com Injection-Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2024 16:46:09 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com; logging-data="77761"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blueworldhosting.com" User-Agent: tin/2.6.2-20221225 ("Pittyvaich") (NetBSD/9.3 (amd64)) Cancel-Lock: sha1:7fV2EgICbq07z6qa/0XRB/w9zwY= sha256:XZWnjf1uhhF4ppWgSSG3SDTL7WnbhKRcdvGaKCjfPCk= sha1:0qJqFDpIzEPnaKmzmI1zoSZMPlY= sha256:XcE8MyqJuIhtfRIAWrsV9fBHy3L6l9dp3mGMAuaTAo8= Bytes: 4038 Lines: 50 In alt.global-warming kensi wrote: > On 2024-10-17 10:30 a.m., Scout wrote: >> We know the rotation of the Earth has changed over time, and is >> currently changing now. Which means a shift in mass. But not just any >> shift in mass. it has to be a shift in mass AWAY from the center, since >> we are slowing. If the mass moved toward the center then rotation >> increases. So all this ice and snow that is melting and running into the >> oceans SHOULD be increasing the speed of the earth's rotation, but it's >> slowing. > > The ice that's melting is mostly close to the poles, and thus to the > axis of rotation. The water that results ends up distributed evenly in > the oceans, and most of it thus ends up farther from the poles. A chunk > of ice near the north or south pole contributes less to Earth's moment > of inertia than the same mass of water in, say, the Gulf of Mexico. > > So, there is a mass flow away from the spin axis, from poles to equator. > There's also a slower, longer-term slowing caused by tidal effects > related to the moon. > >> So how does kensi propose to show that this cycle at this time is >> somehow non-natural? > > https://skepticalscience.com/yes-its-still-us-and-its-still-bad.html > The main cause of the changing speed of rotation is of course the moons drag on the earth. So Scooter is wrong again. How many times does that make? -- Fossil companies try to spin their billions in tax breaks as anything but profits boosted by taxpayers. It's just "state revenue forgone" and is not a payment or money, let alone some kind of theft or confidence trick. If one of their employees was paid to put on a black mask and go house-to-house in their neighbourhood asking families to "donate" $7000 -- approx what US households contribute a year to fossil subsidies -- to some oil conglomerate they would likely be strung up from the nearest overpass in 10 minutes. [Operating Insolvent:] In 2022, fossil fuel subsidies in the United States totaled $757 billion, according to the International Monetary Fund. -- EESI.org, 30 Jan 2024 [Around $6900 per US household per year]. During this period, the U.S. made an annual average revenue of 136.9 billion U.S. dollars through the production and marketing of fossil fuel products. -- statista.com, 29 Apr 2024