Path: ...!news.roellig-ltd.de!open-news-network.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dimensional Traveler Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Subject: Re: Microid's 2024 Empire of the Ants demo came out yesterday! Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 08:00:06 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 52 Message-ID: References: <2mt0hjt6j8bt65v2phv4u4aqhd7fal06o0@4ax.com> <5zudnX7HZP_gAYz6nZ2dnZfqnPsAAAAA@earthlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:00:05 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="28732469dc83585a0602066aa77e7b59"; logging-data="1048049"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/ZAdcrRtSsdQqIB6pByWBO" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:WK5QNgg2P8B5ZnI2Q9k4ttBoCQQ= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3957 On 10/21/2024 7:15 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote: > On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 06:32:49 -0400, Xocyll wrote: >> Dimensional Traveler looked up from reading the >> entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs >> say: >>> On 10/20/2024 7:48 PM, Ant wrote: > >>>> I like the movie. I don't like to read. :P > >>> The movie had been written and was already in pre-production when the >>> producers found out the movie rights to the book were for sale. So they >>> bought those rights so they could use the book's title. >>> No joke. > >> Title and bolted on a few names from the book, and a couple of themes >> (the whole service thing.) > >> But everything else was a mockery - assault rifles with an apparent >> range of 10 feet, forcing the soldiers to shoot point blank at something >> that can cut them in half with a swipe. Um yeah, sure. > >> And the whole psi corp stuff in SS uniforms, no wonder the film is >> nicknamed Nazi Germany 90210. > >> Oh yeah, and the chick flying the ship dodging an asteroid coming in >> FTL, yeah, these guys can't even spell science much less know any. > > > And don't forget the complete and utter lack of powered battle armor, > something the book is most famous for popularizing. > > "Starship Troopers" without powered armor is Star Wars without > lightsabers. I mean, sure you _could_... but why?* > > In fairness, a lot of the other stuff mentioned above (the fascism, > the shitty science, the psi stuff) was part and parcel of the book > too, albeit not so central to the narrative. I'll forgive that... even > if I didn't necessarily enjoy it. But the lack of powered armor? > Actually the political stuff in the movie is almost the polar opposite of the book. Heinlein wrote a war story about service, as in western democracy type "service". The citizenship criteria in the book was _ANY_ kind of service. Being assigned as a park ranger planting trees was service and could grant citizenship. He strongly emphasized that non-citizens were not an underclass. The "Nazis BAAAAD!" parts of the movie were ALL Verhoeven, things that he added deliberately. He's admitted that in interviews. -- I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky dirty old man.