Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:17:42 +0000 From: Spalls Hurgenson Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Subject: Re: Ooh! Mechwarrior 5: The Clans is Out Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 11:17:43 -0400 Message-ID: <8c4ihj52ej72thdu5coh92dqt8p9uhdn6f@4ax.com> References: <18095637@f148.n2.z21.fsxnet> <7ltehj10le5s61rcjitkdi535t8odc397a@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 2.0/32.652 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 95 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-GaqsQ0Z6ZVQuPRq3tyaX2bThyIJTN5k773Yind2Ft29rkTDobo9fihVw3c8xGLO3godjtXvnkyzzBnT!jm/zQ0MT1cA8LMEzX+8FTIUT7BHCV4hhBjmH2P1im+fACaDbAEZKPZ+m4xYpzkd2RjrO5KjC X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 5275 On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 04:07:34 -0400, Xocyll wrote: >Spalls Hurgenson looked up from reading the >entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs >say: > >>On Tue, 22 Oct 2024 05:56:38 -0400, Xocyll wrote: >> >> >>>> >>>>I've got Mech5:Mercs. I love it, but it's a bit repetitive after a while and >>>>I'm starting to lose interest. I haven't purchased any of the DLCs and am >>>>only about 10 missions in. >> >>>I should have looked at my steam library before posting. >>> >>>What I have is mech5:mercs not mech5 basic. >> >>Mostly because there was no "Mech 5 Basic". >> >>On PC, the Mechwarrior franchise included: >> Mechwarrior 1 >> Mechwarrior 2 (with MW2: Ghost Bear's Legacy and MW2: Mercenaries) >> Mechwarrior 3 (with MW3: Pirates Moon) >> Mechwarrior 4: Vengeance (and MW 4: Mercenaries) >> (Living Legends, unofficial) > >You forgot MW4: Black Knight > >> Mechwarrior: Online >> Mechwarrior 5: Mercenaries >> and now >> Mechwarrior 5: Clans >> >>Because MW5:Mercenaries was, for the last 5 years, the _only_ >>Mechwarrior 5 game, the 'Mercenaries' subtitle was often dropped. So >>you'll hear people talking about "Mechwarrior 5" but what they really >>mean is "Mechwarrior 5: Mercenaries" >> >>MW5:Mercs isn't a bad game. I enjoyed it enough to not only play it >>multiple times, but buy a bunch of the DLC. But -as mentioned by >>others- it does get fairly repetitive, and the AI is significantly >>lacking. >> >>The maps are re-used a lot and a lot of the procedurally-generated >>missions (which form the bulk of your adventures as a mercenary) are >>identical other than a reshuffling of what enemies you face. The >>brain-dead AI has the enemies run right into your fire (no attempt to >>flank or try to take you out from afar), and the developers are forced >>to rely on numbers rather than smarts to provide challenge. Too many >>missions require my tiny four-men squad take out literal dozens of >>bad-guys. It's tedious, and goes against the tone of the setting, >>where expensive battlemechs are never tossed away so haphazardly. >> >>"Clans" apparently (or so claim the reviews) improves on the former, >>as its single-player campaign features mostly hand-crafted missions. >>But it's still not clear whether the AI has improved any. >> >>Still, damn if I'm not tempted to buy the game already rather than >>wait for it to drop in price (and get all the bugs and kinks worked >>out). I just love me some rompy-stompy robots! > >Yeah, the MW ones, the "gears" of Heavy Gear 1+2, and another one I >vaguely recall called Slave Zero. Slave Zero was a very different game; it was really more of a third-person shooter that just happened to feature a Kaiju-sized robot* as its protagonist. It was fun, but so different in tone and style as to be more akin to an FPS than a proper 'mech game'. But there were a bunch of similar titles; the aforementioned "Heavy Gear" games -made by Activision after they lost the Mechwarrior license- but also titles like the Front Mission and Armored Core games (originally just for Playstation but migrating later to PC), titles like "Gunmetal" (although that was more of a shooter), "Ultrabots", the Gungriffon titles, Looking Glass' excellent "Terra Nova", "Metal Fatigue", the Earthsiege games, "Iron Assault", Bioware's forgotten "Shattered Steel", Monolith's "Shogo" (that was more of an FPS though), "Krazy Ivan" (again, more shooter than sim) and probably more than I'm just not remembering at the moment. [Oh, like the Strike Suit Zero games! Although those were more swoopy-zoopy-shooty robots in space] But the Mechwarrior games remain the grand-daddy of them all, and -IMHO- the best of the bunch. Warning: Resistance levels to buying MW5:Clans at 52% and falling... * technically, a biomechanical creature telepathically puppeted by an offsite operator