Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Andrew Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: Are Playstore app updates tested before release? Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2024 23:27:09 -0000 (UTC) Organization: BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com) Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2024 23:27:09 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com; logging-data="922"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blueworldhosting.com" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPad) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ffWswEPsf6RHAQ3Z9DIp2Lyd6Og= sha256:l4SQMXX33PzYrqQ5u5OAIOqSLNs0c/qJJ5ouMt2lLZY= sha1:zvNmeCJKtsPJDGWumCxg/219TN0= sha256:9oBoMBAH+88JaSSg201Yn0PfVocACMex+5pZmGdqAAc= X-Face: VQ}*Ueh[4uTOa]Md([|$jb%rw~ksq}bzqA;z-.*8JM`4+zL[`N\ORHCI80}]}$]$e5]/i#v qdYsE`yh@ZL3L{H:So{yN)b=AZJtpaP98ch_4W} Bytes: 4540 Lines: 61 Jeff Layman wrote on Sun, 14 Jul 2024 09:20:25 +0100 : >> It's such a seamless update, the vast majority of Android owners don't even >> know it's happening every month that their phone core packages are updated. >> > > That's an interesting page. Since Android 10, Google has been steadily increasing the number of packages which are updated monthly forever for all Android phones. > Firstly, I assume the phone user "pays" for the update in terms of MB or > GB downloaded. If the user is on a very limited contract (5GB/month or > perhaps even less for a very low-usage contract), then the update might > amount to a large fraction of the allowance. I wonder what happens if > the allowance runs out halfway through an update? The user might also > find something critical they want to use is denied (eg deactivate a > stolen credit card via a bank app) because all the allowance has been > used the previous day without their knowledge! Good question. I don't have a Google Play Store client app on my unrootable Android in my user partition but there might be a WiFi-only setting maybe? > I see that the update goes unnoticed, but the installation is only > completed when the user reboots the device. I wonder how many actually > do that, or is the phone effectively deactivated until the user reboots > it? I don't know but it's commonly accepted you should reboot every once in a while. I generally reboot about weekly but I do it only as I think of it. > Is there some sort of message displayed to that effect? I ask > because with my Xiaomi, automatic system updates are turned off. I get a > notice that a system update is available (or I used to as I'm now out of > the MIUI update period. The OS is MIUI 14.0.5 based on Android 13, and > from what I've read MIUI is now defunct as it's been superseded by > Xiaomi's HyperOS). From what I remember these updates could be in the > 1GB+ range. I don't think you get a message when Project Mainline (since renamed by Google) has updated but we discussed this in the past so I'd have to look. > Does the update come through the Play Store? Although it's an update to > the Google Play System, it doesn't state explicitly that it comes via > the Play Store. Or does it come through the OEM? Good question. I'd ask Andy or Arno. I never thought of where the updated packages come from (as there are more than two dozen in Android 14). > Like you, I have all automatic updates turned off, whether system or > otherwise. In fact, a lot of the bloatware crap which came with the > phone has never been updated. Other than with adb, most of the junk is > uninstallable anyway, but I just ignore it. Yeah, I try not to update unless I know what I want updated, but the Project Mainline stuff updates whether or not you ask it to, I think. > I see that this is where the latest update info is provided: > I think that link answers one of your questions, which is how you know you've been updated. I would guess you have the version they say there.