Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: john larkin Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: 1GW (sic) Battery Energy Storage Systems Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2024 13:47:30 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <8ar6kjtg3c4h4sj7k3u0ltgvcqn9mcmpln@4ax.com> <88fakj9gc9rv5t2hpi1m7gc1tutillr4m1@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2024 22:47:31 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="29885b941dd035e97fa26ef25062c9e6"; logging-data="2065495"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+KTJwyblHvLYgl/05eAH5v" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:bvx1VcYhPlUWPS1pcShLksG0WPA= Bytes: 2471 On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 17:40:25 +0000, Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote: >On 30/11/2024 15:53, john larkin wrote: >> On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 12:37:55 +0100, Jeroen Belleman >> wrote: >> >>> On 11/30/24 11:50, Martin Brown wrote: >>>> >>>> SO that makes me wonder how big is a 1GW transformer operating at 400kV? >>>> And how much does one cost? >>> >>> There are plenty of images and descriptions of 400kV transformers >>> on the web. You have to be an insider to get a fair idea of the >>> cost. These things are usually made to order. I'd guess a 1GVA >>> 400kV transformer to be between 6 and 7 M$. I'm not an insider >>> though. >>> >>> Jeroen Belleman >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/fte4dwtoui96xgeyn9f0h/XfmrScatter.JPG?rlkey=8uh77rliholy3iyd9y8lnvdwc&raw=1 >> >> I should add dollars. > >Thanks John, but that looks a bit pessimistic. I just looked up a bunch of transformer data sheets. Big oil cooled things might be a lot better. > >If I read it right that's 200lb=0.1T for 1kVA so 10^5T for a 1GVA unit. > >My current best guess from 4.5T for 1MVA and so 4500T for 1GVA (plus a >bit extra supporting structure to deal with the extra weight).