Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jan Panteltje Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: OT: Programming Languages Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2024 15:55:02 GMT Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2024 15:55:03 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="408155"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: NewsFleX-1.5.7.5 (Linux-5.15.32-v7l+) Cancel-Lock: sha1:RkfV9hVdd346d2LcQn0YirzwZkg= X-Newsreader-location: NewsFleX-1.5.7.5 (c) 'LIGHTSPEED' off line news reader for the Linux platform NewsFleX homepage: http://www.panteltje.nl/panteltje/newsflex/ and ftp download ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/linux/system/news/readers/ X-User-ID: eJwFwYEBwDAEBMCVaPxjnCD2H6F3OFS2G0HDYrUupdJcMs4URFHLCslhbQLVni0ed/iN6t3XxqepD8zpH0sqFZ0= Bytes: 3957 Lines: 57 On a sunny day (Sat, 02 Nov 2024 14:46:50 +0000) it happened Cursitor Doom wrote in : >On Sat, 02 Nov 2024 07:42:19 GMT, Jan Panteltje >wrote: > >>On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:04:21 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Cursitor >>Doom wrote in : >> >>>You can call me old fashioned, but I still believe there's never been a >>>more elegant computer language than the original K&R C. You can keep the >>>rest; I'll stick with that. >> >>Agree, I use C only and asm when needed. >>I started with binary interfacing hardware... >>Nothing of all of that was hard. >> >>BASIC was fun too, but very limiting, slow interpreted language. >>but fun for simple math... >>No floating point shit when doing asm . >>most human relevant things can be done in 32 bit integer. >> >>My first computer was a Sinclair ZX80 >>It ran BASIC, a good BASIC. >>Then I converted it to a CP/M machine, running the C80 C compiler. >> https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/z80/system14/index.html >>Added all sortd of I/O: >> https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/z80/system14/diagrams/index.html >> >>At work I was using the first IBM PCs.. >>designing ISA cards with all sort of things on it, like vector stuff, >>process control, what not. >>My CP/M running Z81 (by then) was faster than the IBM due to the RAMDISK I build. >> >>Still using C now at home and Micochip PIC asm... >>No bloat today > >About 30 years ago, I bought a C compiler from Microsoft. It came in a >foot-cube box with thumping great manuals and umpteen discs. What a >pile of shit that turned out to be. It was *riddled* with bugs and the >Microsoft 'support' people were as dense as pig shit and didn't seem >to know a thing about the product. But that didn't stop them keeping >me tied up on the line racking up charges while they came up with ever >more ingenious tactics of trying to cover up how vacuous they really >were on the subject. I subsequently migrated to Borland and life got a >hell of a lot better, thankfully. C/80 (for Z80) was a nice C compiler In 1998 I bought a computer magazine at the train station and it came with a CD with SLS Linux That distro had, among other things, gcc as C compiler. Moved to Linux right away and been using gcc ever since. I alaready had a book on Unix, so it took just a few hours to get working in linux. The Unix book I had bought because years earlier I worked a while at a big linear accelerator where they used those PDP things that ran Unix. For work I have had to work with Microsoft stuff and C++ and what not, what a mess. These days you can just ask AI to write the code for you?