Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: -hh Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 12:50:38 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 61 Message-ID: References: <80rckj1bferjoe36ukvf0hdt8eqk5561pr@4ax.com> <9g7ekj56e3ed15bs1f434sg1bijurfru65@4ax.com> <27vekjtp4q263gmgdo83cqar5048tujlj4@4ax.com> <071ikjds6op23p9b1vk6lg4l5379t7mv9l@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 18:50:39 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ea68065d7f22d675442b948dfa19e7ed"; logging-data="1141157"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+ytad73g+pPD7nXgbwNICQ0EKFbbA+iwg=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:RTr5cEOmBVJvehBkmu79GLsfjKY= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3784 On 11/28/24 10:08 PM, Alan wrote: > On 2024-11-28 16:52, Joel wrote: >> Alan wrote: >>... >>>>>> I still have an old 1 TB external hard drive, I use for my backups. >>>>>> It's remarkably simple, just use a file browser to copy files, and >>>>>> use its extra space for temporary storage when doing a clean OS >>>>>> reinstall. >>>>>> Boom. >>>>> >>>>> So you have no actual backup solution at all beyond, "I'll copy the >>>>> files over manually"? >>>> >>>> Is there supposed to be a more straightforward way? >>> >>> Yes. Use proper backup software that keeps track of everything that >>> needs to be backed up, and does so on an automated schedule. >>> >>> Kind of like Time Machine does on a Mac. >>> I meant, EXACTLY like Time Machine does on a Mac. >>> :-) >> >> >> I would wager I could install something equivalent under Linux, but >> it's not a vital need. > > It IS a vital need to anyone who is serious about his or her data. What it really comes down to is that a PC is a productivity device which operates through task automation. From this perspective, why *wouldn't* one want to automate the task of data protection & integrity? >>>>>> I'm not using any SATA device, not even a DVD drive. >>>>> >>>>> Because it's against your religion, or... ...what? >>>> >>>> Well, optical drives are basically unneeded, and SATA storage drives >>>> are outdated.  The NVMe is the only internal media, I install Win/Lin >>>> from USB media, and my external hard drive is for backups. >>> >>> That doesn't make SATA devices worse. >> >> >> NVMe is state-of-the-art. > > Still not an answer. He's also wrong, for NVMe's are "State of the SHELF", as they're a decade old, which is why their retail prices have dropped: my first NVMe based SSD back in 2012 cost me around $600 for 256GB. >> Using SATA when NVMe is an option isn't elite enough, right. > > It's seems you're looking for "bragging rights", not utility. Indeed: Joel is 'faster = better' until it comes to even faster systems than what he owns ... at which point he flips his story to "overpriced". -hh