Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2024 19:20:07 +0000 From: Joel Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2024 14:20:05 -0500 Message-ID: References: <27vekjtp4q263gmgdo83cqar5048tujlj4@4ax.com> <071ikjds6op23p9b1vk6lg4l5379t7mv9l@4ax.com> User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OS: Debian 12, with Wine 9.0 for WinAPI Lines: 56 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-aAp3q8UytPFHOof4vvJOZ3IOoqkY3u8hXi8dd2nVd0GwzaRo47E73YCCqVsm6zDLPUm1bZWLDqL0rRp!5DzCDzSd57C0QYuXXLobGmsx3Duy/TcNmZwfPO0/XGsPbtfNEM+Ov89TIE/fHV/1p/IeccJ9 X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4079 -hh wrote: >>> Joel is 'faster = better' until it comes to even faster systems >>> than what he owns ... at which point he flips his story to "overpriced". >> >> If you compare Apple hardware from the same time I bought my parts, >> it'd be about the same speeds. > >I already have. Sorry, but they're not. > >I've already posted that your CPU is slower. Ditto your SSD too. RAM >hasn't been fully checked out, but architecturally its not on-chip and >out on a bus, so its invariably slower too. > >For the first one, your motherboard allows one generation of CPU upgrade >(from Gen 10 to 11); I'd figure that a Rocket Lake i7 such as the 11700 >would probably provide parity; looks like $218 at Amazon. > >For the second one, this is why I noted about RAID0'ing your boot drive, >as that's what it requires pre-PCI 5. For you, it needs a second NVMe >module; +$100. But since your motherboard's open NVMe slot's PCI 3, not >PCI 4, this strategy still won't provide adequate gain for parity vs the >Studio. But it would be roughly on par to the old 2020 Mini, so I'd >give this one to you if you stop trying to compare to the Studio. > >For the third one, you'd have to replace the motherboard for a faster >RAM bus architecture, so no luck for you there for anything cheap. > >TL;DR: your options to get to parity with Apple hardware of that time >means that you need to invest another $300 at today's prices, which put >your total spent to date at ~$1450 (that we know of), and it looks like >it would still fall short in the third hardware metric. But it is about >as good as you can expect to do with the starting point your 'expert' >chose for you. In other words, the Mac would be half a second faster on a typical operation, at most, who the hell cares, my computer also didn't cost as much as you are adding up, it's a little under $1000. The Winblows license is not really part of it, I'm not even using it anymore. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.