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Failed to connect to MySQL: (1203) User howardkn already has more than 'max_user_connections' active connectionsPath: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: BTR1701 Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: [OT] Self-defense in Canada Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 18:10:26 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 56 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=fixed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 19:10:26 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="705c5a7160a6aecdb6b5ba16df16684f"; logging-data="1751399"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/9szRMQ8Jx3H7z9Q+/nSHJ" User-Agent: Usenapp/0.92.2/l for MacOS Cancel-Lock: sha1:5JR5MX0A0au3t4YQ5NePg07oB8M= Bytes: 3590 On Dec 11, 2024 at 7:38:17 AM PST, "Rhino" wrote: > On 2024-12-10 10:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >> On Dec 10, 2024 at 7:08:35 PM PST, "Rhino" >> wrote: >> >>> I just saw this video about a guy in Toronto who experienced a home >>> invasion and was only able to reach someone on 911 on the 5th try - >>> after the invaders had left. >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCFiuiX38TI [2 minutes] >>> >>> The comments under the video, if true, are quite disturbing in some >>> cases. I was especially troubled about the guy who called 911 and had to >>> be transferred to 4 other 911 operators (around the province) before he >>> finally got one that spoke English!!! Silly me, I would have assumed >>> that fluency in English (and maybe French) was a prerequisite for a 911 >>> operator in this country.... >>> >>> I got to wondering for the umpteenth time about what my rights were with >>> respect to self-defense. As luck would have it, the algorithm put this, >>> video by a Canadian lawyer at the top of my suggested videos list: >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Xolys_2hl4 [8 minutes] >>> >>> Clearly, we do NOT have anything like Stand Your Ground or Castle >>> Doctrine here! The presenter, who is apparently a practising lawyer, >>> repeatedly mentions a case where a home-owner shot and killed an >>> intruder who had threatened to hurt his elderly mother and was charged >>> with 2nd degree murder. (The video is a year old so I'm curious to know >>> what happened with this case but he doesn't give enough details to >>> research it.) >>> >>> I expect that if a crisis happened to me where I had to defend myself, >>> I'd just do whatever seemed necessary and hope that the legal system >>> wouldn't screw me over but I wouldn't be so naive as to assume that >>> there would be no consequences. >> >> Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six. >> >> > Exactly. I first heard that as dialog out of Sipowicz's mouth in an NYPD > Blue episode and it made a LOT of sense then, just as it does now. > > My heart goes out to everyone who has to stand trial for harming someone > in self-defense, like Daniel Penny just did. Fortunately, it worked out > in his case although the stress must have been borderline unbearable. > > I just hope his acquittal hasn't put a target on his back, a target that > some BLM type might like to hit.... You don't realize how dangerous the Penny verdict is. It’s only going to inspire copycat heroes.