Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 16:51:18 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <10ebeeea-6712-4544-870b-92803ee1e398@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 16:51:20 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="67f81b26eb6abf8c68ee6a2d50910cd1"; logging-data="1666128"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX196mP3LKIlqvZVvGk8YVl7iJ8Zhk+5307I=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:I5XhdG7vAO++MQmasF/L7orWKsY= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2788 On 10.12.2024 19:18, Python wrote: > Le 09/12/2024 à 22:50, WM a écrit : >>>> The very core property of analysis is that equal sequences have >>>> equal limits if they have limits at all. >>> >>> E(1)∩E(2)∩...∩E(n) = E(n) >>> >>> Lim E(1)∩E(2)∩...∩E(n) = {} >>> Lim E(n) = {} >>> >>> They are equal. >> >> Not in a set theory where every endsegment is infinite. > > Nonsense. In fact some readers claim that every endsegment is infinite. Finite endsegments cannot be seen. They are dark. > > I once asked a whole classroom what they think of your claims, providing > your posts/site as well as Ben's paper : http://bsb.me.uk/dd-wealth.pdf. Ben Bacarisse's example : To keep things simple, let's number the notes 1; 2; 3; : : : and we'll give McDuck only $2 a day. One has to be returned a day. He accuses me to confuse lim card and card lim and to use the wrong limit. But I simply need the limit of the set only with no cardinality at all. Therefore his example is mistaken. I adhere to the additional condition though that a difference between two states can consist of one note only. That makes a sequence increasing beyond all bounds with limit empty set (where all elements are claimed to have gone) impossible. Never a student of mine has doubted that. Regards, WM