Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2024 19:08:44 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <0e1b6d026b245f9f4224507dea3a70b35d57ff36@i2pn2.org> References: <4a810760-86a1-44bb-a191-28f70e0b361b@att.net> <23311c1a-1487-4ee4-a822-cd965bd024a0@att.net> <71758f338eb239b7419418f49dfd8177c59d778b@i2pn2.org> <16f11466920516ccf0be2887aec3564e4f0cb8db@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2024 19:08:44 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="948213"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3316 Lines: 34 Am Mon, 02 Dec 2024 17:46:04 +0100 schrieb WM: > On 02.12.2024 15:52, joes wrote: >> Am Mon, 02 Dec 2024 15:28:30 +0100 schrieb WM: >>> On 02.12.2024 12:53, FromTheRafters wrote: >>> >>>>>> Endsegment E(n) = {n, n+1, n+2, ...} >>>> This is his definition of endsegment, which as almost anyone can see, >>>> has no last element, so yes it is infinite. He says 'infinite >>>> endsegment' as if there were a choice, only to add confusion. >>> Infinite endsegments contain an infinite set each >> They ARE infinite sets. > Nevertheless they also contain an infinite set No, they contain numbers. >>> infinitely many elements of which are in the intersection. >> The intersection of all infinite segments? > So it is. Ah, no. The intersection is infinite only for a finite number of segments. >>> An empty intersection cannot come before an empty endsegment has been >>> produced by losing one element at every step. >> Which happens only in the limit. >> >>> E(1), E(2), E(3), ... >>> and E(1), E(1)∩E(2), E(1)∩E(2)∩E(3), ... >>> are identical for every n and in the limit because E(1)∩E(2)∩...∩E(n) >>> = E(n). >> What do you reckon the limit is? > Whatever the limit is, it is the same for the sequence of endsegments > and the sequence of intersections. It is the empty set. -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.