Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic,comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: This first time anyone In the entire history of the halting problem derived a correct return value for HHH(DD) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2024 12:44:29 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 77 Message-ID: References: <4ccc2cbecfd0e6befd031ed394f1262edd021822@i2pn2.org> <3d80e95768bf6260168865530aaad3591aa03fda@i2pn2.org> <6d0683c816f5f63b3a17c8a52e9b691eecc143a8@i2pn2.org> <2ebbdef8e9070397a2ec3db6dbc37c16f1fe8923@i2pn2.org> <5e1d34cbe07b0dbffe60a12121f2f751b308c1c5@i2pn2.org> <3431ec3bd2abdc62d693959664e202aa3bc214bd@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2024 19:44:29 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e9bb7a7e09a052885dc07388bbe7af3b"; logging-data="3438229"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19Tmz3hUCCr8biQVpRJUZ11" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:xFLRnVNjFfT6DbOFRO3r+H2kCpY= In-Reply-To: <3431ec3bd2abdc62d693959664e202aa3bc214bd@i2pn2.org> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 241207-4, 12/7/2024), Outbound message Bytes: 4889 On 12/7/2024 12:07 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 12/7/24 10:43 AM, olcott wrote: >> On 12/7/2024 6:18 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 12/7/24 6:32 AM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 12/6/2024 9:50 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 12/6/2024 8:40 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>> On 12/6/24 9:08 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>> On 12/5/2024 11:20 AM, Bonita Montero wrote: >>>>>>>>> Am 05.12.2024 um 05:20 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>>>>> There is an 80% chance that I will be alive in one month. >>>>>>>>>> There may be an extended pause in my comments. >>>>>>>>>> I will try to bring a computer to the out of town hospital. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Maybe you'll solve your halting problem issues before you die. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> typedef void (*ptr)(); >>>>>>>> int HHH(ptr P); >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> int DD() >>>>>>>> { >>>>>>>>     int Halt_Status = HHH(DD); >>>>>>>>     if (Halt_Status) >>>>>>>>       HERE: goto HERE; >>>>>>>>     return Halt_Status; >>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> int main() >>>>>>>> { >>>>>>>>     HHH(DD); >>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am sure that DD correctly emulated by HHH according to >>>>>>>> the semantics of the C programming language cannot possibly >>>>>>>> reach its own return instruction final halt state. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How does HHH correctly emulated DD, if it isn't give tne code for >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> HHH that DD calls? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> As I have told you many dozens of times HHH and DD share >>>>>> the same global memory space within memory version of the >>>>>> Halt7.obj file. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> And thus you admit that your HHH isn’t the required “pure function” >>>>> as its >>>>> result is dependent on that contents of that global memory, and not >>>>> just >>>>> its input, as required by the definition of a global function, >>>>> >>>> >>>> First we have to acknowledge that pure function or not HHH does >>>> something unprecedented in the history of the halting problem: >>>> HHH does correctly reject its input as non-halting. >>> >>> No, it doesn't do anything "unprecedented". >>> >> >> Changing the subject to a different criteria >> IS CHEATING USING THE STRAWMAN DECEPTION >> > > Right, which is what *YOU* have done. As your subject says, you are > talking about the *HALTING PROPBLEM* which has a defined criteeria > When I say the the work that I accomplished ON MY CRITERIA has never been done before IT IS WOEFULLY DISHONEST to rebut this by changing the subject to some other criteria. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer