Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2024 19:36:24 +0000 From: D Message-Id: <20241201.193624.b611e494@mixmin.net> Subject: Re: Abusive deletion of groups on fr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <20241130.005949.9d8e08c1@mixmin.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!news.mixmin.net!news2.arglkargh.de!alphared!sewer!news.dizum.net!not-for-mail Organization: dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider X-Abuse: abuse@dizum.com Injection-Info: sewer.dizum.com - 2001::1/128 Bytes: 5346 Lines: 102 On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 18:12:29 +0100, Laika wrote: >Le 30/11/24 à 01:59, D a écrit : >> On Thu, 28 Nov 2024 21:19:08 +0100, Laika wrote: >>> it was the number of messages in the archive of one server, for each >>> fido-group (only the first ones was listed, as you can see chatgpt has >>> drunk). >> >> just curious... the popular "blueworldhosting" server currently shows >> over twenty-four thousand (24,712) articles in news:fido7.ru.military > >There is 1 year less on i2pn2, but much more on csiph (since 2015), all >readable, especially in Russian, archives in Arabic. Often, an nntp >server offers a long list of message titles but their content is >inaccessible, the sysop decides, nntp sysops are rarely reliable or >trade in binaries, the best free servers have closed. That's why fido >could be reborn ... about one dozen free (public nntp) newsservers currently operational that carry the common text hierarchy (40,000+ newsgroups) . . . "csiph" is new to me: (using Tor Browser 14.0.3) http://csiph.com/ >Free public NNTP/Usenet access at >news://nntp.csiph.com/comp.sys.ibm.ps2.harware >or drop by on your favorite provider! >This local server caries the entire text hierarchy. >... >Connected Peerings > news.bbs.nz > erje > Eternal September > individual.net > snorky.mixmin.net > neodome.net > news.samoylyk.net > swapon.de > tnetconsulting.net > usenet.pasdenom.info > news.weretis.net > xmission [end quoted excerpts] (using Tor Browser 14.0.3) http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=nntp.csiph.com&btnsubmit=Go >Server: nntp.csiph.com (45321) ^^^^^ 5896 articles, oldest article dated 2016/10/1 . . . i tested several other active newsgroups with server "nntp.csiph.com" (localhost 119/tor browser) and it appears to have excellent article retention (oldest date 2015/06/02 in a.p.n. . . 77,000+ articles!); thanks for the tip, added to server list >Is fido moderated? Sometimes. This moderator is omnipresent: Approved: >gateway@fido7.ru > >How to access? Fortunately, gogle-groups this parasite has been stopped, >there are still gateways apparently (there are quite a few remailed >messages, see the encapsulated-remailing method). Russia and Crimea seem >to have hosts, you would have to find a recent fidonet directory then >the phone number of the BBS or its DNS address. fido7.f400.link ? > >https://bbs.fandom.com/wiki/FidoNet#FidoNet_availability >https://www.fidonet.org >They say: Use telnet for fidonet. It's a good idea, but BBSs allow you >to bypass the internet. > >More info in the active groups and their FAQs, everything is in Russian >(google-translate doesn't like it). The West has disowned fido, for >convenience. > >fido7.f400.link increments a counter in the routing over time, new >nodes? There would be 334 (where?), it's plausible. > >Fido has its nomenclature xzone.xxxcounty.xxxnode.xxxxpoint plus >remailers, no need for DNS since it originally went through BBSs >(telephone). You can even go through amateur radio. > >Some explanations and political information on fido7.ru.anarchy > snip thanks for the detailed description . . . i'll read more as time permits, especially because usenet servers carry so many of these fido newsgroups >> however, the oldest article for this newsgroup (fido7.ru.military) on >> the server (news.blueworldhosting.com) is dated 2022/03/22 ~three and >> one-half years old, which suggests "fidonet.org" approved articles to >> this popular moderated newsgroup expire before the server's longevity >> of about twenty-one (21) years, as is evident for enduring newsgroups >> i've had very good luck with russian freeware (e.g. https://aimp.ru/) >> and websites, but i have no experience with fidonet (only usenet, and >> formerly with bbs) . . . because it's moderated, is it like political, >> or just common interests in all things military without east vs. west? > >Russia censors websites that offer VPN downloads, I don't know anything >about the rest, but I see remailing, approvals maiby needed for >remailing, and a few groups that have survived for reasons I don't know >(technical means, confidentiality?). only guessing, but this bbs "fido" network probably seems normal for the (they say mostly) russian/ukrainian-based users, with politics, religion, etc. being avoided as much as possible . . . like everyone else is doing