Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Frank Krygowski Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Todays rant Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 10:37:56 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 159 Message-ID: References: <5k40lj5f2tltc8e218sep3dgidple04ng9@4ax.com> <6lg0ljhbga4aejosak0pdhnvqt2piumnbg@4ax.com> <7eq0ljd263hfnh7fl5q2rve1ads5pfg0vc@4ax.com> <89r0lj5djklqp9c9a4bgg8eo2fickr4mu7@4ax.com> <6ss2ljt8k1uirk5gmoe827fimvbbeiv0md@4ax.com> <9333lj51la9cbu8q82vko53347i8d8lh36@4ax.com> Reply-To: frkrygow@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2024 16:37:57 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="cec56b8926cce04222889c4657cab315"; logging-data="1784575"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/rcnpfgcHphJw9p2FhedgpGMmON01ATUs=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:V0FoRlBTiuoQMmJ/d2U9RJEG9SQ= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 7931 On 12/5/2024 10:03 AM, AMuzi wrote: > On 12/5/2024 5:35 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >> On Thu, 05 Dec 2024 16:36:56 +0700, John B. >> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 05 Dec 2024 03:42:24 -0500, Catrike Ryder >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 05 Dec 2024 10:18:01 +0700, John B. >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, 04 Dec 2024 10:09:39 -0500, Catrike Ryder >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 04 Dec 2024 21:45:52 +0700, John B. >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 04 Dec 2024 08:50:21 -0500, Catrike Ryder >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 04 Dec 2024 18:56:41 +0700, John B. >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 04 Dec 2024 04:05:42 -0500, Catrike Ryder >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 3 Dec 2024 23:45:12 -0500, Frank Krygowski >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 12/3/2024 8:12 PM, John B. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 3 Dec 2024 11:04:27 -0500, Frank Krygowski >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/3/2024 6:22 AM, John B. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You might ant to look at https://www.worldometers.info/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> coronavirus/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it used numbers per population and is no longer updated. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Details on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> site. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Example >>>>>>>>>>>>>> World cases - 90,413 per 1 million >>>>>>>>>>>>>> U.S.A. cases    - 333,985 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> World deaths - 889.4 per 1 million population >>>>>>>>>>>>>> U.S.A. deaths - 3642 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Data means nothing to those whose world view is dominated >>>>>>>>>>>>> by their >>>>>>>>>>>>> political views. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "That site could be biased!!! It's probably run by >>>>>>>>>>>>> Socialists!!!" >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Statistics can show anything they want them to show!!!" >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "How do we know those were COVID deaths? Those Americans >>>>>>>>>>>>> could have died >>>>>>>>>>>>> of anything!!!  ... Oh, but the U.S. medical system is >>>>>>>>>>>>> _still_ the best >>>>>>>>>>>>> in the world!!!" >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> And life expectance is number 48 (both sexes) in a list of >>>>>>>>>>>> the world's >>>>>>>>>>>> countries >>>>>>>>>>>>    https://www.worldometers.info/demographics/life-expectancy/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Our tricycle rider is going to get mad at you for giving >>>>>>>>>>> links he >>>>>>>>>>> doesn't like. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No, this tricycle rider understands that there are many >>>>>>>>>> reasons other >>>>>>>>>> than health care for life expectancy to be lower in the USA, >>>>>>>>>> drugs, >>>>>>>>>> crime, poor eating, and other bad habits (getting fat) being >>>>>>>>>> some of >>>>>>>>>> them. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> USAians eat processed food with chemicals that color, >>>>>>>>>> preserve, and >>>>>>>>>> enhance taste are in a lot of the food on grocery shelves in >>>>>>>>>> the USA, >>>>>>>>>> but not in many other countries.  Hopefully, RFK jr is going >>>>>>>>>> to work >>>>>>>>>> on that. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Err... you mean like putting salt on pork to preserve it? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No, but they already limit the amount of ratshit in your >>>>>>>> cheerioes, so >>>>>>>> why not limit the amount of chemicals? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't know about the breakfast cereal. I haven't eaten that >>>>>>> since I >>>>>>> was in my teens >>>>>> >>>>>> Same here. I've eat Quaker instant oatmeal most mornings. No >>>>>> artificial crap. They now have one with less sugar, so I go with that >>>>>> one. Occasionally, I make omelets, and once or twice a week we go out >>>>>> for breakfast... where I usually, I get an omelet.  I like omelets. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Try >>>>> https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/chemical-found-in-cheerios- >>>>> quaker-oats-other-oat-based-foods-linked-potential-health-issues-study >>>>> A pesticide linked to reproductive and developmental issues in animals >>>>> was found in oat-based foods sold in the U.S., including under major >>>>> brand names like Cheerios and Quaker Oats..... >>>> >>>> ..there are many such issues. In the cited case manufacturers claim >>>> that their product meets government (EPA) requirements. I wouldn't >>>> trust the EPA any more than I trust the people ( Environmental Working >>>> Group (EWG)) who did the study. The EWG recieves it funding from >>>> organic food manufacturers, so I'm not inclined to trust them. >>> >>> >>> Well,, as you don't trust this mob and you don't trust that mob, then >>> who do you trust? Some wild eyed bloke on the Internet? >> >> I trust the people I believe to be trustworthy. That would be some, >> not all of my relatives, and some, not all of the people I know. I do >> not trust the following blokes unless I know them and believe them to >> be trustworthy; blokes on the internet, blokes who do studies, and >> blokes in the government, or blokes who run for government positions. >> >> -- >> C'est bon >> Soloman > > > As Bobby Jindal put it 'When I got to Washington I was stunned by the > widespread corruption. I saw it as a cesspool. After three terms, it > started to look more like  a hot tub, so I left.' > > [paraphrase: didn't find exact original] > > And that's a Congressman who at least has some accountability.  What's > it like for a guy writing FDA reports (often utter fiction) and counting > the days to early retirement when he can go work for the guy who pushed > the 'research'? IOW: "Nothing can be known. All is mystery. Ommmmmm..." Some of the oh-so-independent-minded folks posting here claim total skepticism of anything emanating from the government, including all scientific or economic data. But it seems to me that's often just a way to maintain cherished beliefs despite all evidence. "COVID was no worse than a seasonal flu." "Sadaam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction ready to attack the U.S." "The stock market tanked during the Obama administration." "Nothing can make riding a bike among cars safe." -- - Frank Krygowski