Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Chris M. Thomasson" Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: How many different unit fractions are lessorequal than all unit fractions? (infinitary) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 12:38:35 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 58 Message-ID: References: <4bc3b086-247a-4547-89cc-1d47f502659d@tha.de> <09d9f0df-b1bb-42a7-af9b-890bfbcfc581@att.net> <3f63bc22-83b2-4d56-9837-849551170c77@att.net> <50ac7044-f8c1-47d9-947f-9fa6044e1848@tha.de> <68b8be64-7fe8-47e7-a991-7adf14713af5@att.net> <53460f91-4542-4a92-bc4b-833c2ad61e52@att.net> <29ce40e9-f18a-44d4-84d9-23e587cf9dea@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 21:38:36 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4348f2eaa7e685a949c1bfdab9f7454c"; logging-data="585145"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/bi24SwnqG/yuA/SeGAJdUD8Eq0wqU4z4=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:N8LUYAobCggT4XcxPG8VhUXnNEE= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3309 On 10/16/2024 9:55 AM, WM wrote: > On 16.10.2024 17:34, Jim Burns wrote: >> On 10/16/2024 4:50 AM, WM wrote: > >>>> There is a general rule not open to further discussion: >>>> When doubling natural numbers >>>> we obtain natural numbers which >>>> have not been doubled. >>> >>> CORRECTION: >>> When doubling natural numbers >>> we obtain even numbers which have not been doubled. >> >> The set S of ordinals which >> are finite  and for which >> their double is not finite >> is empty. > > Maybe. Then not all natural numbers have been doubled. { 1*2, 2*2, 3*2, 4*2, 5*2, 6*2, ... } >> >> When doubling natural numbers (finite ordinals) >> we obtain natural numbers. > > Maybe. >> >> When doubling all natural numbers >> we obtain only natural numbers. > > That is impossible. >> >>>> In potential infinity >>>> we obtain more even natural numbers >>>> than have been doubled. >>>> In actual infinity >>>> we double ℕ and obtain >>>> neither ℕ or a subset of ℕ. >> >> There is a general rule not open to further discussion: >> The natural numbers ℕ equal the finite ordinals 𝕆ᶠⁱⁿ > > That is only possible in potential infinity. But there the result is > worthless. > > Regards, WM > >