Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Pancho Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: What programs do you make sure are installed on a new Linux Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:54:32 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <8db593ab-0793-2b31-ebc3-922a5d2fc241@example.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 18:54:36 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7b0a172c36ea7ee5cab7991a1bf71da3"; logging-data="773832"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/+KFf/qgVGNWnNl4VpNgoeSfntItUdSLk=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:joozGlL2rTVVBJ2UKm3+bXbNYy0= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: Bytes: 2302 On 11/17/24 17:17, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2024-11-17, Pancho wrote: > >> On 11/17/24 14:33, Phillip Frabott wrote: >> >>> I am a headless C developer (Sometimes C++). > > Is that like Roland the headless Thompson gunner? :-) > (Thank you, Warren Zevon.) > >> That is bizarre. It is much easier to code, debug, test in a good >> graphical IDE, even if you are developing console apps. > > Horses for courses. Never underestimate the value of a > few printf()s sprinkled here and there (or log file writes > if you're really headless). I'm still a fan of makefiles. > Not really, people who use IDE's still use loggers. People who use IDEs, use build automation scripts: Gradle, Mavern. It is rude to force people to use a specific IDE, so some kind of IDE independent (cross compatible) project definition build script is needed. Caveat: I don't really remember make.