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From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
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Subject: Re: The joy of Civilization
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2024 02:23:25 -0000 (UTC)
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On 31 Oct 2024 02:16:13 GMT, rbowman wrote:

> On Thu, 31 Oct 2024 01:57:05 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> 
>> Civilization originated in Mesopotamia. I have a book in my shelf on a
>> generalist introduction to the archaeology of the earliest
>> civilizations, and it has a specific set of features that a society has
>> to have to be classed as a “civilization”:
>> 
>>   * Urbanization
>>   * Division of labour
>>   * Metalworking
>>   * Writing
> 
> Obviously written by an archaeologist who thought western civilization
> was hot shit.

Considering the West was not exactly a hotbed of culture at the time, I 
would say not.