Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: candycanearter07 Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Subject: Re: Steam finally kills Win7/8 support Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2024 21:00:08 -0000 (UTC) Organization: the-candyden-of-code Lines: 49 Message-ID: References: <8oeekj1t1l2n2jpllv1b36jd5ofncv20b1@4ax.com> Injection-Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2024 22:00:08 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f26f6481281c9784097093ad6805a85f"; logging-data="2945738"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1953kFAWvQ/H2ttgrdKOheQSD3DYyQxdHhb4v6FRoa+PQ==" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:MXFj0YvsBD5Uz6cUe20iIwkh9PQ= X-Face: b{dPmN&%4|lEo,wUO\"KLEOu5N_br(N2Yuc5/qcR5i>9-!^e\.Tw9?/m0}/~:UOM:Zf]% b+ V4R8q|QiU/R8\|G\WpC`-s?=)\fbtNc&=/a3a)r7xbRI]Vl)r<%PTriJ3pGpl_/B6!8pe\btzx `~R! r3.0#lHRE+^Gro0[cjsban'vZ#j7,?I/tHk{s=TFJ:H?~=]`O*~3ZX`qik`b:.gVIc-[$t/e ZrQsWJ >|l^I_[pbsIqwoz.WGA] wrote at 15:40 this Saturday (GMT): > On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 01:30:07 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 > wrote: > >>Zaghadka wrote at 18:38 this Wednesday (GMT): >>> On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 10:37:12 -0500, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, >>> Spalls Hurgenson wrote: >>> >>>>these deprecations aren't directly >>>>caused by Valve, but by their use of Chromium as the underlying >>>>framework in Steam. >>> >>> OH! Okay, that makes perfect sense. I forgot that there was 3rd party >>> browser code in Steam. >>> >>> So they literally can't fix security holes. They'd have to release an "at >>> your own risk" version. >> >> >>Isn't chrome(ium) open source? > > Yes it is. > > So Valve _could_ retroactively add support for older operating systems > into their client. Doing so would constitute an an entirely new branch > of the browser, however, and half the point of using a third-party > browser is so you don't have to maintain it yourself, but can just > download the updated source to use in your project whenever you need > it. Although there is actually already a branch of Chromium for > older Windows versions that is reguarly updated called Supermium that > they could use. But I doubt that is as vigorously tested as the core > Chromium code. > > But the Chrome thing also gives Valve excuse not to have to support > older operating systems anymore. You don't need to worry about > problems --and create workarounds-- for issues that only occur on > older operating systems. From all we've heard about Valve's internals, > they don't really have good structure for things like maintenance of > older projects; it's all about the 'latest and greatest' fad, and > infrastructure projects are lowest-totem-pole assignments. So ensuring > old code remains good code isn't a priority there. Nobody there wants > to ensure that Steam keeps running on old WinXP machines, so nobody > does it. And if a few customers get shafted, well, them's the breaks. We already know they don't do maintenance much, look at TF2's issues or completely deleting CSGO for the sequel. -- user is generated from /dev/urandom