Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeds.news.ox.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: Vincent Maycock Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Top three reasons for optimism about the ID scam Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2024 10:43:33 -0800 Organization: University of Ediacara Lines: 32 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <43kukj5e6nm8sss524tniqcq7avc1i2fua@4ax.com> References: <2a339317-e79f-4f14-81d6-b40ea12c6f7a@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="64941"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Return-Path: X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 99B08229782; Tue, 03 Dec 2024 13:43:30 -0500 (EST) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2143B229765 for ; Tue, 03 Dec 2024 13:43:27 -0500 (EST) by pi-dach.dorfdsl.de (8.18.1/8.18.1/Debian-6~bpo12+1) with ESMTP id 4B3IhNPP1495765 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2024 19:43:24 +0100 by egress-mx.phmgmt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C51D60F92 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2024 18:43:11 +0000 (UTC) by serv-2.ord.giganews.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2587445C6F for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2024 12:43:21 -0600 (CST) by serv-2.i.ord.giganews.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id 4B3IhLuD018834; Tue, 3 Dec 2024 12:43:21 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: serv-2.i.ord.giganews.com: news set sender to poster@giganews.com using -f X-Path: nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail X-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2024 18:43:21 +0000 X-Original-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3755 On Tue, 03 Dec 2024 14:20:07 +0000, Martin Harran wrote: >On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 09:08:28 -0600, RonO wrote: > >[...] > >> >>My take is that most Christians no longer fear God in this way. It is >>why most Catholics are just fine with the Heliocentric heresy. >>Heliocentrism was never removed as a heresy in the Church. > >It was never removed as a heresy because it never was a heresy. You >have been told that multiple times, yet you persist in stating it. Galileo's works were on the Catholic prohibited list until way into the 18th century. >>It was only >>down graded, to a more minor heresy > >There is no such thing as a "minor" heresy. There are degrees of >heresy including one of being *suspected* of heresy which was what >Galile was charged with. Galileo's views were found to be "contrary to Holy Scriptures" and as such were not to be held, defended, or taught. Galileo swore up and down that he wasn't interested in the Copernican ideas he had published on, but no one believed him, and he was sentenced to house arrest for the short remainder of his life.