Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dimensional Traveler Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Whoops! The Atlantic Makes Trump Look EPIC In Cover Intended as a Smear Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:48:23 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 50 Message-ID: References: <20240913a@crcomp.net> <9lrbhjth817stv8fotbo3ibig1qpqjpoh5@4ax.com> <6ctchjp5n73v2had88s5smaq7eac755vc6@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2024 03:48:21 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3370c7ed1d0361359c2a347a884be0c6"; logging-data="1245042"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/Z1rPVVU6TJciV66a7ftpj" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:qSNfAmJMUpNP1naVpx8mOCqhjbA= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3626 On 10/21/2024 9:38 AM, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > On 10/21/24 08:48, Paul S Person wrote: >> On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 23:05:57 -0700, The Horny Goat >> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 17:09:35 -0500, Lynn McGuire >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I am still wondering who is going to get the Chinese to cut their CO2 >>>> emissions now that they are 1/3rd of the world's CO2 emissions ? >>> >>> This is why I'm dubious about climate change targets. >>> >>> I'm a Canadian and every last one of us could commit suicide tomorrow >>> and not help climate change as much as China or India or both reducing >>> their emissions by 10-20% >>> >>> I'm NOT a "denier" but DO deny any international convention where >>> China and India are NOT part of the solution can possibly be >>> effective. > >     Well they are building a lot of solar and wind capacity. >     But like some other nations they have to continue to use > Coal and other fossil fuels until their capacity is high enough > to replace other none-emitting sources. > >> >> While your point seems valid and may be, in your case, honestly meant, >> you should be aware that this can be seen as an attempt to maintain >> the gap between "us" and "them". >> >> We enjoy the results of a century or so of industrialization, most of >> it with no concern for externalized costs. (I actually read an article >> that suggests that the reason certain French painter's paintings look >> softer and vaguer as time goes on is precisely because they were >> painting what they were seeing, and what they were seeing was softer >> and vaguer because of growing air pollution.) Resting on this >> foundation of wealth, we can afford to put the brakes on the pollution >> express. >> >     Until all those fuel burners are replaced with electrical > powered vehicles we have nothing to brag about in the USA. > Only if you can generate "clean" electricity to power those EVs. Natural Gas powered generators are a significant part of US power production.... -- I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky dirty old man.