Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: FromTheRafters Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:59:54 -0500 Organization: Peripheral Visions Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <97304048-24f5-4625-82a7-d17427f2f6e3@att.net> <65febd06-662b-4fa4-9aa8-f7353a79a110@att.net> <157a949d-6c19-4693-8cee-9e067268ae45@att.net> <8165b44b-1ba5-429d-8317-0b043b214b53@att.net> <883377b7ebbd9d5d528db048daf9f682e3854ae8@i2pn2.org> Reply-To: erratic.howard@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 21:59:56 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8054ebeaf731c0f3b5f585a7036e039a"; logging-data="876963"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/xIo+wooilxrCDABj4D/3qIojbbq0ZFs4=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:uBDcSk3NP+ErAq04ddcYiixdLOs= X-Newsreader: MesNews/1.08.06.00-gb X-ICQ: 1701145376 Bytes: 2671 WM used his keyboard to write : > On 17.11.2024 20:08, joes wrote: >> Am Sun, 17 Nov 2024 18:38:00 +0100 schrieb WM: > >>> Of course. ℵo equals |ℕ|, equals |ℚ|, equals all countable sets. It is >>> simply another name for infinitely "many". |ℕ| however is a fixed >>> infinite number. Note that sets are invariable. >> >> Yes, those are all the same number. >> > It is the "number" many. ℚ has all elements of ℕ and some more. Therefore the > correct numbers are different. It is sometimes better to think of cardinality as a number indicating a notion of 'set size' rather than a notion of 'number many'. For finite sets these two notions merge.