Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: NoBody Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: ABC settles "rape" claim re: Pres. Elect. Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2024 10:20:23 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 100 Message-ID: <35ndmj91mc14b2eumun869idcm3gc910lm@4ax.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2024 16:20:25 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0d1f62fb0baab3c225fb0c14d3c3cd7a"; logging-data="110766"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18g2vHFYMjjLeHPb/7zD4PEOUUgcK1KJrc=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:Bwr6Z/NC6fs/SvHSezTULElqH60= X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 3.3/32.846 X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 241221-2, 12/21/2024), Outbound message Bytes: 5675 On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 13:18:31 -0500, moviePig wrote: >On 12/20/2024 7:07 AM, NoBody wrote: >> On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 12:24:55 -0500, moviePig >> wrote: >> >>> On 12/19/2024 7:29 AM, NoBody wrote: >>>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 07:50:15 -0800, suzeeq wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 12/18/2024 4:28 AM, NoBody wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 11:57:19 -0500, moviePig >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 12/17/2024 7:31 AM, NoBody wrote: >>>>>>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 12:40:22 -0500, moviePig >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 12/16/2024 7:22 AM, NoBody wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Dec 2024 16:54:39 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> danny burstein wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> George Snuffalapogous had stated Mr. Trump (not President >>>>>>>>>>>> at that time) had been found guilty of "rape", when, well, >>>>>>>>>>>> we all know the legal technicalities and definition and >>>>>>>>>>>> specific legal issues. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> He did not say "guilty". >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Donald Trump has been found liable for defaming the victim of >>>>>>>>>>> that rape by a jury. It's been affirmed by a judge. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The NBC Blue Network will pay $15 million to... his >>>>>>>>>>>> Presidential library... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-abc-george-stephanopoulos-lawsuit-defamation-b2664508.html >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm not buying what the judge wrote last year that the plaintiff proved >>>>>>>>>>> "rape" as commonly understood by the public even though no rape had >>>>>>>>>>> occurred using the legal definition of "rape". The jury was asked to >>>>>>>>>>> make a specific finding of "rape" and they said no. She still won the >>>>>>>>>>> case on other points even if not on that point. The judge was wrong to >>>>>>>>>>> second guess the jury here on the finding they made on a specific set of >>>>>>>>>>> facts. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From your cited article: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "“Donald Trump has been found liable for defaming the victim of that >>>>>>>>>> rape by a jury,” Stephonopoulos said on ABC’s This Week at the time. >>>>>>>>>> “It’s been affirmed by a judge.” >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Juries in New York found Trump liable for defaming and sexually >>>>>>>>>> abusing E Jean Carroll after he repeatedly called her a liar for >>>>>>>>>> speaking publicly about allegations that he assaulted her in the >>>>>>>>>> 1990s. Trump has appealed the nearly $90 million in judgments against >>>>>>>>>> him. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Last year, the judge overseeing those cases wrote that Carroll’s >>>>>>>>>> failure to “prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New >>>>>>>>>> York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr Trump >>>>>>>>>> ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape.’” >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> “Indeed, as the evidence at trial ... makes clear, the jury found that >>>>>>>>>> Mr Trump in fact did exactly that,” US District Judge Lewis Kaplan >>>>>>>>>> wrote." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Honestly Trump has a case against the judge as well. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What redeeming aspect of Trump's character did George falsely besmirch? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you need the facts of ABC admitted lie explained to you, you're not >>>>>>>> worth the bytes it would take. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your President-elect forcibly finger fucked her. Explain *that* fact. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Trump was not convicted of rape. ABC said he was. They lied. >>>>>> >>>>>> End of story. >>>>>> >>>>> In other jurisdictions it's considered rape/ >>>> >>>> No one cares. He was charge and found not guilty. >>>> >>>> End of story. >>> >>> Well, you're right that not many care about the technical 'not guilty'. >> >> It's not technical. It's fact. Trying to spin otherwise is engaging >> in technicalities. > >It's a fact that NY law makes a misleading technical distinction. > Laughter. Go ahead and explain it for us.