Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 11:53:32 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <5b8de1bc-9f6c-4dde-a7cd-9e22e8ce19d9@att.net> <31419fde-62b3-46f3-89f6-a48f1fe82bc0@att.net> <476ae6cb-1116-44b1-843e-4be90d594372@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 11:53:31 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e66bb22bbe05828732e73e7a13999941"; logging-data="1214569"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+CbDVVYPvK2CF/P6EFU+QnqaK78YGQFp0=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:HVuRaHhFkG7PiIilPOobxGPqkZQ= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3126 On 22.11.2024 09:42, Mikko wrote: > On 2024-11-21 11:03:28 +0000, WM said: >> For every finite (0, n] the relative covering remains f(n) = 1/10, >> independent of shifting. The constant sequence has limit 1/10. > > That is irrelevant to your question whether the whole interval becomes > black if the shifted intervals (n/2, n/2+1) are painted black. It is relevant by three reasons: 1) The limit of the sequence f(n) of relative coverings in (0, n] is 1/10, not 1. Therefore the relative covering 1 would contradict analysis. 2) Since for all intervals (0, n] the relative covering is 1/10, the additional blackies must be taken from the nowhere. 3) Since a shifted blacky leaves a white unit interval where it has left, the white must remain such that the whole real axis can never become black. These facts prevent the Cantor-bijection for different sets of natural numbers. > > And that question is irrelevant to the topic specified on the subject line. > If different sets of natural numbers already cannot be in bijection, then the rationals are also excluded. Regards, WM