Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Ross Clark Newsgroups: sci.lang Subject: Re: Exegesis: Ges could have come from [Gerere, Ges-] ---- Diegetic: Ge(t) looks like (((ditto))) Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 11:40:02 +1300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <92acc430cbccfc0516b6ad08b14beda4@www.novabbs.com> Reply-To: r.clark@auckland.ac.nz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 23:40:10 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="46f0ce6700ee98d8dc2e5ad5b275f28a"; logging-data="329984"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19IIMaxJbvwAMi4/NcEMC2jSqCVv8L9OoQ=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 Cancel-Lock: sha1:PToLSLRy+ZfWmC1Mr4AYo+AjPnk= In-Reply-To: <92acc430cbccfc0516b6ad08b14beda4@www.novabbs.com> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 2208 On 21/11/2024 9:14 a.m., HenHanna wrote: > From the root [Gerere, Ges-] came Gesture, Digest, Suggest, ... > > > > Exegesis -- the Ges part looks like it could have come from [Gerere, > Ges-] > > Diegetic -- the Ge(t) part looks like (((ditto))) > > > > ------- Is there any linguistic (etymological) basis to the above? > >       (i guess not)... But it's good (at least) as a Mnemonic!!! No, they're both Greek, not Latin. But they do have the same root. exegesis (n), exegetic (adj) explanation, interpretation (of a text) Greek ἐξ-ήγησις from ἐξ-ηγέομαι 'interpret' ("lead out") diegesis (n), diegetic (adj) narration, telling a story Greek διήγησις from δι-ηγέομαι 'narrate, describe' ("lead through") The verb in both cases is the one in ἡγεμών 'leader', that gives us "hegemony". "Exegesis" is a much older word in English, from 1600. "Diegesis" seems to appear only in the mid-20th century, from French film theory. "Exe