Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: moviePig Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: ABC settles "rape" claim re: Pres. Elect. Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2024 11:59:29 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 111 Message-ID: References: <96ndmj99a7t8mjdk55qmuq292qo0qs7hiu@4ax.com> <2msqmj1mgmn4r5kcfvm687dpog75mab2l7@4ax.com> Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2024 17:59:32 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="019dcc824058f754f3a15516a52b5ff2"; logging-data="3230596"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19hG40lTfD6L5YErJFvLL7kcsZTTAhS4Y4=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:mOIHhkhtPHbnNZh/mopzkYiB798= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <2msqmj1mgmn4r5kcfvm687dpog75mab2l7@4ax.com> Bytes: 6171 On 12/26/2024 10:16 AM, NoBody wrote: > On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 12:27:30 -0500, moviePig > wrote: > >> On 12/25/2024 11:32 AM, NoBody wrote: >>> On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 15:49:20 -0500, moviePig >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 12/24/2024 7:36 AM, NoBody wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 11:43:15 -0500, moviePig >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 12/23/2024 7:24 AM, NoBody wrote: >>>>>>> On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 13:20:30 -0500, moviePig >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 12/22/2024 10:26 AM, NoBody wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 11:28:18 -0500, moviePig >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 12/21/2024 10:21 AM, NoBody wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 13:10:29 -0500, moviePig >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/20/2024 6:59 AM, NoBody wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 12:19:59 -0500, moviePig >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/19/2024 7:31 AM, NoBody wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 01:31:39 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suzeeq wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/2024 4:28 AM, NoBody wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 11:57:19 -0500, moviePig wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . . . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your President-elect forcibly finger fucked her. Explain *that* fact. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump was not convicted of rape. ABC said he was. They lied. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> End of story. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In other jurisdictions it's considered rape/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But he wasn't in other jurisdictions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The harm to Donald Trump wws nominal. not $15 million worth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ABC obviously felt otherwise given that they caved so quickly. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Umm... giant corporations don't piss off sitting Presidents, especially >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not one who's vengeance-driven. It's bad business. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Enough about Biden. What about Trump? BTW Trump is not yet the >>>>>>>>>>>>> sitting President and it never stopped the media before so your claim >>>>>>>>>>>>> is ridiculous. ABC was caught in libel and paid big time. End of >>>>>>>>>>>>> story. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Not the "end of story" just because you stop reading. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You're welcome to explain it us how a jury finding Trump not guilty of >>>>>>>>>>> rape makes him guilty of it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Laugher. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There's legal guilt, and then there's understood guilt. Trump escapes >>>>>>>>>> the former only by a specific distinction in a specific jurisdiction. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Good grief. You can't state that someone was convicted of rape when >>>>>>>>> they weren't. That's libel. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, if you knew they weren't. And iirc he said "found *liable* for >>>>>>>> rape", not "convicted" ...which may have been raised as relevant. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are you now trying to say that Boy George gave an interview without >>>>>>> doing his homework? >>>>>> >>>>>> No, as I understand it, his homework was even done *for* him. But he >>>>>> chose to describe Trump as harshly as possible. It's unclear what >>>>>> verdict a full reckoning -- i.e., no "settlement" -- would've given. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To state that he was convicted of rape is not a description. It's a >>>>> claim of fact, which is why ABC is paying big bucks. >>>> >>>> Again, he said "found *liable* for rape", not "convicted". And, again, >>>> it's unclear whether that difference might've borne out as important. >>>> >>> >>> He was not convicted nor "iiable" for rape. The judge in the civil >>> case was wrong on the law as much as you are. It's a shame you can't >>> sue judges cause that would be fantastic. >> >> Afaik, there's no definitive meaning of "found liable for rape". >> > > Obviously ABC knew what that meant because they settled REALLY > quickly. Liable has a specific legal definition. You're welcome to > find any legal reference where Trump was found legally liable for > rape. Nothing about a settlement is obvious, except to an "expert".