Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 12:14:20 +0200 Organization: - Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <35274130-ffa0-4d11-b634-f2feb3851416@tha.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 11:14:21 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b60e6808d9f8cf14d50f70d1229b6b25"; logging-data="1150535"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18cyRtnPOoHOFu6lso3bfUe" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:SpEQNBfGW3/CZhh4k9QhARKcI8g= Bytes: 2971 On 2024-12-15 11:25:26 +0000, WM said: > On 15.12.2024 11:56, Mikko wrote: >> On 2024-12-14 08:53:19 +0000, WM said: > >>> Please refer to the simplest example I gave you on 2024-11-27: >>> The possibility of a bijection between the sets ℕ = {1, 2, 3, ...} and >>> D = {10n | n ∈ ℕ} is contradicted because for every interval (0, n] the >>> relative covering is not more than 1/10, and there are no further >>> numbers 10n beyond all natural numbers n. >> >> It is already proven that there is such bijection. What is proven cannot >> be contradicted unless you can prove that 1 = 2. > > What is proven under false (self-contradictory) premises can be shown > to be false. If your premises are contradictory (as they seem to be) then everything can be proven to be both true and false. > Here we have a limit of 1/10 from analysis and a limit of 0 from set > theory. That shows that if set theory is right, we have > 1/10 = 0 ==> 1 = 0 ==> 2 = 1. That is the fallacy of equivocation. The limit of analysis is a different concept from the limit of set theory. -- Mikko