Path: ...!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cursitor Doom Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: the apple test Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2024 23:10:04 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 46 Message-ID: References: <8gp8nj9oj4doomp7fkc7akclnkn8e18mj1@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2025 00:10:05 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ee96011dda1996689cb9a44d5f441cc0"; logging-data="2564168"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18eYGOzMravhXN17JHxwF6lGl47gexQmks=" User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Cancel-Lock: sha1:QZ4e7Ec5DHT0WKnrA7TKZdAmjTg= Bytes: 2878 On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 17:19:51 -0500, Edward Rawde wrote: > "john larkin" wrote in message > news:8gp8nj9oj4doomp7fkc7akclnkn8e18mj1@4ax.com... >> >> Close your eyes and imagine an apple in front of your face. Can you see >> it? In detail, in color? Can you rotate it on any axis and see it >> moving? Can you look down on it from the top and see which way the stem >> points? > > Haven't we been through this before? ISTR we have. >> Some people can visualize the apple, some can't. I just find it bizarre that some people can't. I have no difficulty seeing it in great detail 3D technicolour and the perspective manipulation is no problem, either. There again, I was equally astonished when I discovered that not everyone dreams in colour as that was also something I'd always taken for granted. BTW, being able to visualise 3D objects in space has not assisted me in the least with laying out a board in advance and the are invariably no shortage of items I fail to allow space/clearance/connectivity-convenience for. And my visio-spatial awareness *in practice* is equally hopeless. So there must be something more to it. > > Or so they say. > There's no way to know what goes on in someone else's head. > >> Some of the can't folks are writers, artists, healthcare providers, >> programmers. Their brains apparently process words, not images. >> >> Seems to me that a circuit designer should be able to visualize >> circuits, but maybe not. >> >> One guy I talked to today can only imaging the apple floating above his >> head, and can't manipulate, or really much see, it. He's a very good >> programmer. >> >> I suspect that half of the people that we think are rude in >> supermarkets, or bad drivers, aren't so much ill-mannered as they can't >> visualize spatial situations or mentally model trajectories. >>