Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Moebius Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2024 22:12:21 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: <3af23566-0dfc-4001-b19b-96e5d4110fee@tha.de> <8a53c5d4-4afd-4f25-b1da-30d57e7fe91c@att.net> <10ebeeea-6712-4544-870b-92803ee1e398@att.net> <1f1a4089-dfeb-45f8-9c48-a36f6a4688fb@att.net> Reply-To: invalid@example.invalid MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2024 22:12:51 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e6875d69e4264b0d5dbc3e2f69e1cd4e"; logging-data="1207505"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/RyXxfSOWuvkTanHb7NUxu" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:6Duwem2/XuLaT5Om1JEUhJFjSwE= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: de-DE Bytes: 3000 Am 10.12.2024 um 22:09 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson: > On 12/10/2024 12:20 PM, Moebius wrote: >> Am 10.12.2024 um 20:31 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson: >>> On 12/10/2024 1:06 AM, Moebius wrote: >>>> Am 09.12.2024 um 23:21 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson: >>>>> On 12/9/2024 2:13 PM, WM wrote: >>>>>> On 09.12.2024 23:05, FromTheRafters wrote: >>>>>>> WM presented the following explanation : >>>> >>>>>>>> In sequences of sets only sets matter. >>>> >>>> Or rather _their contents_. >>>> >>>>>>> Then why are you averse to the empty set? >>>>>> >>>>>> Not at all! It proves the existence of dark numbers. >>>>> >>>>> Yawn... >>>> >>>> Well, the empty set contains each and every dark number, that's for >>>> sure! >>> >>> { } = infinite dark? >> >> Nope. Actually, >> >> for all x: If x is a dark number, then x is in {}. >> >> See?! > > Shit. So, any natural number that WM cannot think of is dark? I guess. Who knows? It's complicated. :-P :-)