Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2025 14:06:11 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <8e95dfce-05e7-4d31-b8f0-43bede36dc9b@att.net> <53d93728-3442-4198-be92-5c9abe8a0a72@att.net> <9c18a839-9ab4-4778-84f2-481c77444254@att.net> <8ef20494f573dc131234363177017bf9d6b647ee@i2pn2.org> <66868399-5c4b-4816-9a0c-369aaa824553@att.net> <412770ca-7386-403f-b7c2-61f671d8a667@att.net> <59af1502-0bc9-4266-b556-6164edb6a8d4@att.net> <9a22a29bfd5af29db5bad5f3cae537665b8dafd7@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2025 14:06:12 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a1411fda0edf1a6405e84a2254264e67"; logging-data="3549991"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+8b7N7U6wiC9+k6FqDdUe0K9sA4EhEPSk=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:XxT3p18YZj3v7nIll3PZLC8lcrs= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2792 On 09.01.2025 13:27, FromTheRafters wrote: > WM wrote : >> On 09.01.2025 01:07, joes wrote: >>> Am Wed, 08 Jan 2025 22:57:52 +0100 schrieb WM: >> >>>> The rule is for n there is n+1. But the successor is not created but >>>> does exist. How far do successors reach? Why do they not reach to ω-1? >>>> Where do they cease before? >>> They don't cease. They simply aren't in the same league, if you will. >> >> Cantor will. Every set of numbers of the first and second number class >> has a smallest element. Hence they all are on the ordinal line. > > Zero is the smallest in the natural number class, omega is the smallest > of the infinite number class. Neither has a predecessor in its class. Are the natural numbers fixed or do they evolve? Regards, WM