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Subject: Re: Why WAS the 6th Doctor era SO BAD?!
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 15:29:33 +0000
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On 12/01/2025 12:11, The Last Doctor wrote:
> On 12/01/2025 09:42, John Hall wrote:
>> In message <vlv2md$re1k$3@dont-email.me>, Dimensional Traveler 
>> <dtravel@sonic.net> writes
>>> On 1/11/2025 1:00 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>> On 1/11/2025 10:09 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>>> John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> In message <vlsi7d$a8vm$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
>>>>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> writes
>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>> This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron Steven 
>>>>>>>> Moffat
>>>>>>>> for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed the 
>>>>>>>> series
>>>>>>>> off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after 
>>>>>>>> making
>>>>>>>> both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill Potts
>>>>>>>> killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and don't
>>>>>>>> forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able to 
>>>>>>> rescue
>>>>>>> Amy and Rory because for some tenuous reason he couldn't visit NY 
>>>>>>> at the
>>>>>>> particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather. 
>>>>>>> He could
>>>>>>> visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a 
>>>>>>> message to
>>>>>>> be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, 
>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>> he'd be able to pick them up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they could have 
>>>>>> brought
>>>>>> some up and explained why they wouldn’t work.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I thought it was that those time-shifted by the Angels could never 
>>>>> time
>>>>> travel afterwards.
>>>>>
>>>>  No, they were just trapped in a zone that the doctor couldn’t go to.
>>>>
>>> Can someone remind/enlighten me on _why_ The Doctor couldn't go there?
>>>
>>
>> I don't recall that a convincing explanation was ever given. I suspect 
>> that even Steven Moffat didn't know. It was just that a way had to be 
>> found to write out Amy and Rory, and this was what he came up with.
>>
>> [Least relevant ng trimmed]
> 
> Moern Doctor Who seems to have adopted a sort of "probability collapse" 
> model  for time travel (except when the writers break their rules). 
> Events are changeable, but become fixed for a specific observer once 
> they are observed by that observer. (In addition to the "fixed points in 
> time" that Time Lords perceive in some unexplained manner and are 
> immutable - except when the writers choose to break their rules ["The 
> Fires of Pompeii"]).
> 
> In this case, once the Doctor had seen Amy and Rory's names on 
> gravestones, their lifetimes were set. So although the Doctor COULD 
> technically visit them again, he couldn't imperil them or take them off 
> though time and space, for fear of unravelling the Web of Time.
> 
> That's as close to a "reasonable" explanation as I can come up with.
> 

How do they prove their identities to the US authorities? Do they get 
deported? They can't prove they're British either. How do they obtain a 
Green Card so they can work?

Why couldn't they just have said they wanted to start a family and 
no-more sex in the space-time vortex, so the decide to live with Rory's 
Dad until they can get a mortgage. Simple. Moffat, Chibnall, and Davies 
are all degenerate retards.

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