Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Wolfgang Strobl Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Suspension losses Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 15:54:52 +0100 Organization: @home Lines: 55 Message-ID: <5jj7oj5bsav56puu1qjvoo8i5iu1sd7opv@4ax.com> References: <7ee2ojpq2b75m6gsd5svace02b19qassrk@4ax.com> <3mn5ojdc9v7daofhmd5c56m2pbdrser96s@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net B0UtrfuImIIuFPwZu7GO3AY5wy/uuZwpGtmASzdiq+9m83wlKm X-Orig-Path: mystrobl.de!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:zU6EJsqyhQTjn+qEWlu+oe+cQo4= sha256:+XibF5xFkprZm6ABP8t5+/AcIio4jumiznUgaYAokoo= User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Bytes: 3775 Am Sat, 11 Jan 2025 19:47:52 -0500 schrieb Frank Krygowski : >On 1/11/2025 4:22 PM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote: >> Am Sat, 11 Jan 2025 00:06:46 -0500 schrieb zen cycle >> : >> >> >>> I'm no fan of electronic shifting - it would be just my luck to be on >>> planed 4-6 hour ride, and have something crap out at the furthest point >>>from the car/house. That said, I'm never going back to discrete shifters. >> >> It isn't that difficult to carry a CR2032 and a tiny 25 g rechargeable >> battery somewhere. The coin cell lasts about two years, the battery is >> good for about 800-1000 km. Both warn early via LED on the device or via >> a Garmin Edge computer, for not having to care during a 4-6 hour ride. >> > >But how many threads have we had here about problems with Garmin computers? Don't know. My Garmin GPSMap 60CSx that I bought in early 2008 is still working, but I replaced it by a better version (a 64 s), when this was sold at a very low price, in 2018. I still use it as an outdoor device, when walking or for just recording a track on a long car ride. Can't report real problems when using an EDGE 1030 plus, so far, because I haven't had none. By the way, before it gets lost, while it is indeed convenient to be warned about low battery by the Garmin 1030, it isn't necessary for checking battery state. Both shifters display the state, when activated (full, low, critical), and so does the derailleur. In both cases, low is signaled early enough to still have about a day of riding left. There _are_ problems with devices like that, just with any new technology. But these aren't. Our bikes and their wireless shifting is perfectly useable without a Garmin computer, or a similar device of another brand. In my home town, I see many cyclists riding around on almost flat rear tires. This is somewhat dangerous. New cars have obligatory tire pressure warning, for quite some time. Most of these need maintenance, costing money. Such devices exist for bicycles, too. One of our sons used such a device on his bike, out of curiosity. It caused more problems than it solved, so he dismantled it. I fear that some fool comes up with the idea of making such a montitoring device mandatory for bicycles, too, perhaps by pointing to modern bicycles, ahem, to E-Bikes. :-/ We can't be safe enough, right? Right? :-) -- Thank you for observing all safety precautions