Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary, effectively) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 09:59:02 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <45a632ed-26cc-4730-a8dd-1e504d6df549@att.net> <3d2fe306aa299bc78e94c14dadd21645d8db9829@i2pn2.org> <2163aa0c0efba66c813e8ebda5ef5ece6d19ea34@i2pn2.org> <9387e323873e24f0a57b8daa49579d9a1c517563@i2pn2.org> <89598d353b5737d5cbfabd1cde31c797a212e13d@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2025 09:59:02 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="01d51636a443c1100d6c37c2b77ce98b"; logging-data="4028012"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/OgNGifebn3DYhE4h7MJle+Fb5L8yIXxg=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Z7lKOAOYdynk0t5AIIdC/pxciak= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <89598d353b5737d5cbfabd1cde31c797a212e13d@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 3056 On 02.01.2025 20:47, Richard Damon wrote: > On 1/2/25 12:23 PM, WM wrote: >> On 02.01.2025 14:25, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 1/2/25 6:40 AM, WM wrote: >> >>>> Every union of FISONs including them all which stay below a certain >>>> threshold stays below that threshold. Every FISON stays below 1 % of ℕ. >>>> What can't you understand? >> >>> No, becuase "all which stay below a certain threshol" is not EVERY >>> FISON. >> >> Which one is more than 1 % of ℵ₀? > > There isn't one, but anytime you CHOSE what you limit is, I can go past it. That is the property of potential infinity. But it does not contradict the boundary 1 % of ℵ₀. >>> When you actually take the union of ALL that infinite set of FISONs, >>> you will get the full infinite set of N. >> >> Stupid belief. Which FISON is more than 1 % of ℵ₀? >> > Which isn't a valid question, It is a valid question and proved by the fact that every FISON multiplied by 100 is less than ℵ₀. Regards, WM